thanks again fozzer u have been great as i said yest....ur service is unlike anythign ive been around for quite some time and i will talk to clanwarz abt there lack of service.....ur right i shld not have to have u go so far above and beyond to correct and fix what is there problem.......i will be thinking abt looking for another provider because of all the, well ask them and see if they can help you. blah blah...im not happy and as i told them yest i wrked on it from 8 in the morg till 8 at night...and as an architect that day has cost me a lot of money in time ......with the only result i got was from PBBans...u gys are damn good at what u do and like i said great customer skills,,, u get AAAAA +++++ from me and i will spread the word it was a client who uses u guys that said go use them and they were right..... B) :D thanks again.......for ur input happy customer bloodrunner :03: