thank you, for the info, i will have to catch up with him, and let him now your thoughts, cool i have that command pb_sv_plist, im gonna have to see about his version of punkbuster, there are admin issued levels but only our clan members have the most access, were all pretty close to one another, honest. this guy is out of control he changes about 10 names in 10 sec. when i hit my tab key to show players the names change like crazy. like 10 at a time. He just keeps saying hes the hacker and theres nothin we can do. i will keep intouch.