:angry: i was hoping it would be something as simple as that, but unfortunately, it is still not working. my client verison and server versions seem to match up but the revs are different. the server is running A1293 and my client and everyone else that connects it running A0. not sure if that means anything. once i updated using ssh i updted my client again using pbsetup.exe from evenbalance which still did not help. any other suggestions?