That being said Fozzer,
I would like to see a hard line stand on some of these guys. You make some great points in your post. The one I find kinda of lacking heart (not on your part but PB's) is a 2 min kick for cheating. To me this should be a GHB (Global Hardware Ban) or 3 times and then GHB. That would put a stop or a least make the hackers think about D/L'ing a program if they know they will be removed for good. I mean lets face it, it's all about money. We see SS's everyday someone cheating 100% guilty running charms/acid skin/aim bots etc etc. yet, what's going to happen to them, "nuts" they can't play on a streaming server.. :blink: I'm not knocking PBbans or PsB god bless them for all their great work, but let's say theres 10,000 servers for COD 4 how many are streaming to Psb, PBBANS, or AON they all stream to PB.Seems like the punishment isn't fitting the crime. (only using cod 4 because seems to be the hot game right now)
As for streaming facts here's what I pulled up PsB
Call of Duty 4
2879
servers
streaming &
PBbans COD 4 1,862 servers streaming. I did an Xfire query (yes I know is not a 100%, but close nuff) I hit 10,347 minus out the factors hackers still have 5,606 servers to play without any of them using updated ban list from sites like PbBans and PsB or AON. So the pudding still not looking so good to me. Now that's if someone where dual streaming what if someone is only using one service than the % goes down.. Pb should step up to the plate and start laying the hammer down on these hacks. IMO.
I really don't see why they wouldn't, maybe I'm not seeing what you mean here. I showed them this yet, PB nor EA would do anything to said player one would say talk to the other and vise versa. What was the most disappointing to see a hacker keep playing while nothing happened to him. He was put on PsB ban list , but not PBbans so therefore by numbers alone he still had plenty of servers to pick from. Unless someone is cubed streaming PBBans, PsB, and Aon then the % goes down further and further, and less likely to be caught. Because when PB updates it does it in sweeps. Seems to be less and less.
As for not running pb, just look at the SS above see how well it's working.. ;) the guy played for almost a year like this he just got a new guid and keep on playing. That's what I would like to see some GHB put on cheaters. I thought EB was Punk buster? I mean they are PB right, yet they don't take any SS of there on program? There are way to check to make sure the SS is not tampered with. From what' I've seen from my on experience with Pb all they doe is depend on Emails and a program. Other then that you will get nothing from them, as for experienced server admins how many players have that kinda of time to set up there servers for all the above stated PsB, PBBans, or AON? It does takes some exp. with FTP or auto MBL's that's a lot ask for some people. Mostly it's clans that do that stuff what about the guy who plays for fun? Which makes up a large % of players what about them? What do they do? (I would think they depend on PB to keep things clean)
Lastly, as for the banlist don't we do most of that work? I mean we review the SS's right and vote on them. Then the admins here pass the info on to PB right? (Please correct me if I'm wrong) So don't we help them? Fozzer you make some great points in your post m8 I just going by what I've seen and dealt with from my own exp. I see your point as well, I know with out Pb, it would be like playing CS in the old days guys flying around pwning everyone. Sometimes I feel that way now.