[GV]FruitY

I somehow have to disagree on that. There is no security loss at all for server admins. The opposite it is. Now server admins can easily follow which stream caused the kick, added which checks and so on. Transparency will be the result. So far I haven't seen a single server admin who is restricted to just one stream provider. About the last sentence... I am sure that server admins fully understand that every AC have to maintain their servers from time to time. Also they already know that every AC get DDos'd sometimes. Don't think too bad about AC users, they will understand. Also it is the AC responsibility to do the maintenance at a wisely picked time. At all I don't think there is a need to "disagree" with the decision PBBANS made. Every ongoing "argument" will just lead in a fight who looks better. Which should never happen on a public forum anyway.

I don't really see where the victory goes to the hackers in this case. Of course there are always two sides of a story but at the end only the result counts. And in this special case the winners are the players, server admins and of course the AC itself. Because every AC have its own ban system and ban period for different violations there are always problems in keeping the shared bans synchronized. So many players got unbanned by one AC but still being banned on the other AC because the ban list isn't sync'd. Same goes for Bug-Ban-removals. Also banned players now know exactly where to go to when getting kicked, since every AC have its own kick message (including the AC url). Server admins that choose to stream to all ACs will have all bans and takes only 1-5 minutes (depends on the register steps of each AC). Since the most ACs using the live ban system there is no need to upload any ban list. Means less work for the admin at the end. If a AC decide not to share its bans, then this is their right and also gives them the full control over their bans, without the need to inform other ACs about bulk ban-removals. Also they keep their own justification. What would be the need of streaming to different ACs if you get all bans from a single AC. You wouldn't even think about to stream to any other AC. In short, I understand the decision of PBBANS and respect it.

oi =) ok i try it now on this way coz is fucking hard to catch u in #pbbans :P i just want to know if johnnys server still streams to pbbans. or may he streams now to pb. IF the server streams i need a special log from this server. anyone up to help me out with this? the reason why i realy jump on your nerves now it this --> http://www.clanbase.com/zforumframe.php?gid=13 the topic was "LnK sensE and others - Johnny-Mnemonic - Tue 19 Oct 20:51" and i really want find out the truth now :mad: so help plz?