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I also have been hearing rumors that vista causes all your pbss to come out black I was wondering weither this is true or not ? Since I think some ppl in Sof2 have been using this as their excuses as to why their pbss come out black all the time claiming it's cuz they have vista but these certain players who tell us this we think might be lying to cover up a pbss blocker. Any1 know much about this ?

Yes this is true what sprint says. All I'm trying to do is help out my clan I play with for in Cod2 as well as a Sof2 member for them when they need me to keep the clan I play for clean & cheat free "since I play for my own personal clan / team full time that I just recently started back up |wpn which I would also like to make sure is clean of any cheaters & stream that server as well with you when I get it back up". As well as helping to keep other clans & leagues clean that ask me for help on these matters & the entire game in general & any other games I can help any1 with for that matter since my only goal ever was to help keep any online game I play clean & cheat free weither when it was when I had private access here to the MPI3 & MPI4 or just public access with limited ability to know for sure weither a player was indeed 100% clena or not. If the reason I'm not allowed or denied is cuz of the problems we had back when I was in <IS> Insomnia Saints or the Bad League temporary acting CEO for {B.A.D} clan as a favor to them & other players who still wanted to have a league to play or when I was on the roster for >>tacp:: in that well I no longer play for >>tacp:: on any roster in any league be it EGL http://extremegamingleague.com/index.php or PGL http://www.progamingleague.net/ you can check for yourself. I do help ref for EGL cuz they needed the help but I don't think that thats not allowed to be done by SGA's here since other clan members who have SGA do the same as well as Anti-Cheat for both EGL & PGL <--- which Im currently banned from playing in this league with run by <IS> Insomnia Saints member for personal reasons of him not liking me. Also I would like to send a sincere apologize about the Bad League fiasco you guys were indeed right & I made a big mistake putting up with <IS> Insomnia Saints shit in that & should have just kicked the from the league at the start of it but other clans pleaded with me to try & work things out since they didn't wana see them drop out cus they wanted the competition of playing them. Which I eventually saw as a mistake that grew to a bigger mistake week by week when I found they were using dirty players but since I didn't have access here to things to find out about each player in full that I could have before it took longer to have others do the leg work for me. Unfortantly they did have 1 member <IS>Da_Ghost who I & other believed to be a hacker / ex-hacker that they won alot of matches playing with since he had a real fresh cd-key / GUID we were never able to get enough proof to ban em :( but w/e <IS> dropped out anyways when we revoked 1 of their unfair wins :) . & My apologize to any1 that I may have offended in pm's or post it wasn't anyhting personal I was just trying to debate & state my case like any1 would when they have a duty to a league that we all wanted to keep as clean & cheat free as possible cuz I didn't really find it fair that I wasn't allowed help by pbbans when we needed it but thats the past now no big deal to me & hold none of it against any of you. I did find it funny that when I chatted with RodeoBob I would be allowed to stream my personal Bad League server I paid for & had 100% admin access to but was told I still wouldn't be allowed SGA here cuz it seemed some ppl had a personal issue with me which I opted not to do cuz again thought it unfair to let me stream but not get the same access every other person streaming would be allowed. Which was a bad move on my part since it would have added some bans to the list here some actual Bad Legaue players, some not & some I believe were in Bad Legaue but used fake / generated cd-key & GUID & some of which later got banned in other srever for stuff lol hackers for the lose & pbbans ftw lol but again thats the past IMO. So I will hope you guys can recosider me on this matter plz as there are many ppl & clans out there that ask me for pb related help to check on weither players are clean or not which I have to tell I can't anymore that I know I could help alot with again if you guys did consider me & if you did I'd be more then welcome to do background checks for any clans here on players for them to do my part & help keep online games clean & cheat free. On a side note I would also like to donate to pbbans since I see you are asking for help but I have no paypal or way to send any money online is there a way I can send you guys a check or money order to some address cuz either way weither I get access here or not I feel I have gotten alot of help using your system in the past & present & owe to ppl here to do my part in helping make sure things are kept alive & running. Thx for your time. ;)

Thx MayDax.

Well thx for the help I will have em try this stuff since some of the other stuff we tried from other forums we read didn't fix the problem for him but I'm not 100% sure he did it correctly. Another fix I read about was replacing the mp.pk3 file in the base folder with 1 directly off the sof2 disk this didn't seem to work either when we tried that. We now think it might be something to do with his sof2 disk being scratched & certain files didn't load correctly which might be the case. So he's gonna try to get his other copy back from his friend to see if that wont help with this problem. Help Much appreciated ppl ;) FYI any Admin here who reads this plz fix my status under my avatar I am no longer associated with Bad League anymore as the website & League have been closed I was just temporarly handling the last season until the doors were closed so you can take that post off the homepage as well if you want since the league is no longer around period to give room for other things more important ty. B)

Ok a good friend of mine from some of my old clans in Sof2 just got his computer fixed after being away for about a year. He has installed the game on his harddrive but when he goes to play either the single player or Multiplayer version he gets this error. SOF2MP GOLD V1.03 win-x86 Nov 5 2002 Initialising zone memory ..... ----- FS_Startup ----- Current search path: C:\PROGRA~1\SOLDIE~1/base/MP C:\PROGRA~1\SOLDIE~1\base\update103.pk3 (55 files) C:\PROGRA~1\SOLDIE~1\base\update102.pk3 (213 files) C:\PROGRA~1\SOLDIE~1\base\textures1234.pk3 (10843 files) C:\PROGRA~1\SOLDIE~1\base\textures0.pk3 (2816 files) C:\PROGRA~1\SOLDIE~1\base\skins.pk3 (4117 files) C:\PROGRA~1\SOLDIE~1\base\musicandsound.pk3 (3055 files) C:\PROGRA~1\SOLDIE~1\base\mp.pk3 (338 files) C:\PROGRA~1\SOLDIE~1\base\models.pk3 (3643 files) C:\PROGRA~1\SOLDIE~1\base\maps.pk3 (466 files) C:\PROGRA~1\SOLDIE~1/base ---------------------- 25546 files in pk3 files Running in restricted demo mode. ----- FS_Startup ----- Current search path: C:\PROGRA~1\SOLDIE~1/demo/MP C:\PROGRA~1\SOLDIE~1/demo ---------------------- 25546 files in pk3 files ----- CL_Shutdown ----- ----------------------- Couldn't load sof2mp_default.cfg ------------- Input Shutdown ------------- ------------------------------------------ He has also tried to uninstaling & reinstall sof2 more then once after this to see if it would fix it but it still did the same thing. The 1 thing he hadn't tried after talking with me is deleting the entire sof2 folder from his hardrive after uninstalling but I'm not sure if that will help. So I'm posting here to see if any1 else that may have had this problem before or knows how to fix it can give me some input on how to help him. Any help would be much appreciated thx you.

Looks like a possible nade skin idk odd looking though.

I have a few quick questions about some pbss I got off my server & was wondering if you guys might be able to help me out if you can answer them for me ty in advance for any input. Is this a wallhack or is the guy he's looking at in front of the wall I can't tell for sure ? Is this really a wallhack or just a glitch in their video card that they seemed to have exploited ?

Is your server running Rocmod 2.1b or lower cuz I do know of a hack that can exploit the ability for ppl to use this said hack & attack a server that clans using that version or Rocmod or lower had in the past & came here for help. If thats the case just using Rocmod 2.1c will fix the problem with the exploit that the said hack used but not sure if this is the same case problem your having or not. & Yes plz do let the pbbans staff know where these kids are getting this thing so they can take action against ppl using this sorta thing to illegaly attack ppl's servers.

Well from my experience with players from past clans of mine who were busted using this I learned that basicaly the reason it's not bannable anymore is cuz it was an auto downloaded file in many cases since certain server you entered you would auto download this file if you had downloads on. Notice the z in /z_no_fog.pk3 means it was a auto downloaded file since almost all auto downloaded files have the z in them from my experience with these sort of files. I personal have my auto downloads off & delete any of these type's of files from my folder if I do get them some how by chance. But yes IMO this should be bannable after so many offenses for it since most players I seen busted with it knew they had & knew they could get away with using it & not get banned since all they would have to do is appeal it cry auto dowloaded it then ban lifted. Hell 1 of my 1st clans a guy was busted with it 4 times the 3rd time we told em get rid of it was busted again after that & he knew damn well he was using it but played dumb came & appealed it & it was lifted which I thought was lame cuz he did indeed use it to hack but their are many cases where newer players don't realize they auto downloaded this file that might be screwed over if it was bannable. Prvtparts thats not a no fog pk3 thats a no smoke pk3 which isn't an auto downloaded file so I asume thats why it is bannable.

I thought this was interesting I don't play the game & never have before but some1 sent me this link to read this story to get a look into the way a cheater thinks when they cheat in a game. http://www.ggl.com/news.php?NewsId=4423 ^^^ Click the link to see the entire story Interview With a Cheater Posted by Cash on January 5, 2007 Today, cheaters might have suffered one of the greatest blows in the entire history of online gaming at the hands of just one guy. Earlier today Fusen, an "Enemy Territory" admin for the website Crossfire.nu, managed to gain admin powers on of the most notorious cheat-making websites, *********.**. So far over 100 people have been unveiled who are in possesion of one of *********'s cheats. The list varies from Mr. Noob to Mr. Iamahighskillz0r and expands by the hour with more astonishing discoveries. One of them is evan, a fervent ET player and contributor to the community through being a cupadmin for ClanBase. Today a lot has changed for him, as he turned out to be on the list of cheat purchasers. However, with his enthousiasm for ET and competitive gaming, it is hard to see the lame stereotyped cheater in him. It raises the interesting question of why a rather respected person in the community gives into to the temptation of a cheat. The big question behind any cheater...WHY? cont...

I thought this was interesting I don't play the game & never have before but some1 sent me this link to read this story to get a look into the way a cheater thinks when they cheat in a game. http://www.ggl.com/news.php?NewsId=4423 ^^^ Click the link to see the entire story Interview With a Cheater Posted by Cash on January 5, 2007 Today, cheaters might have suffered one of the greatest blows in the entire history of online gaming at the hands of just one guy. Earlier today Fusen, an "Enemy Territory" admin for the website Crossfire.nu, managed to gain admin powers on of the most notorious cheat-making websites, *********.**. So far over 100 people have been unveiled who are in possesion of one of *********'s cheats. The list varies from Mr. Noob to Mr. Iamahighskillz0r and expands by the hour with more astonishing discoveries. One of them is evan, a fervent ET player and contributor to the community through being a cupadmin for ClanBase. Today a lot has changed for him, as he turned out to be on the list of cheat purchasers. However, with his enthousiasm for ET and competitive gaming, it is hard to see the lame stereotyped cheater in him. It raises the interesting question of why a rather respected person in the community gives into to the temptation of a cheat. The big question behind any cheater...WHY? cont...

try now fozzer I think it should be fixed

ip: 209.67.209.92:20112 Rep Game: Sof2 Clan tag: |*WoW*|

Well goody liek I stated I support these new players & them getting the screw from Ravensoft/Actvision & will back them 100% in the matter cuz it's bs that they are having this done to them where essential the mp/sp version will eventually become sp version only for them unless on servers that aren't policed by pb, evenbalance, pbbans or PsB. But on the other hand I for 1 would not relax my server for them as it would let cheats in that I wouldn't want on my server & thats just part of the tuff cookies about it they came way late in the game & have gotten the screw & yes I thought the same thing -=Garbage Dingo=- about the keygens but don't approve of it but looks to be the only way these new players will be able to play on certain servers when this single key is eventaully caught by some1 cheating with it. So far as I'm concerned sucks for all those new ppl purchasing the game but it's no reason to have it effect those who wont have any problem over that matter that bought the game long ago it's to bad that might be the way it will have to be unless the matter at hand is fixed. IMO Every1 should send emails to them about this matter to get on their case to see if they will fix it if any1 knows the site or email to direct our issues to plz let us know here since I'm pretty sure many ppl here will back the new players up & how what is being done to them is wrong.

I see no reason why this should happen since there are still many of ppl with old cd-keys that are legit straight from the box that aren't part of these new cd-keys that are all the same so why would pb, PsB, or pbbans wana drop their support for the game since there are still many clean & dirty players out there still playing with 1 of a kind cd-keys that can be policed by the anti-cheat sites. Just to bad that as far as I can see for the new ppl buying the game will be tuff cookies for them if the cd-key they are given is used to hack under by some1 thats an issue they need to take up with the manufacture of the game & let them know they are now selling cd-keys that are no good for multiplayer gaming which I asume they will tel them well guess you bought the game for the single player version tuff luck about the multiplayer version. Which sucks but hey as I see there are still many ppl with 1 of a kind cd-keys that need to be kept track of to keep the game clean for as long as we can rather then giving up cuz of a set back which only effects these new ppl buying the game sucks for them but no reason other should suffer cuz they came late in the game even though I will strongly support them in their fight against this being done to them since it's wrong for companies to sell the consumers the same cd-keys.

Well I to have been having this same problem with a short 3-10 second freeze at the start of joining a server & on occassion it does it when each new map loads up but that only seems to happen in servers with alot of ppl in them but I was thinking this might be a problem with my Sof2 files that I'd have to clean up or reinstall to fix but I guess from what I'm hearing thats not the case.

Another thing I didn't mention that I tended not to like & I'm sure you might see some of my point here is that the list made was somewhat miss leading to any1 else from other clans who might have read as it made all of the clan appear to be hackers. When even the clean players names were lumped in with the other players names with * by them & if ppl didn't read the post correctly as to what the * ment they might have thought all of us on that list were "convicted cheaters" You also called all the ppl with * by there names convicted cheaters but their GUID's are all clean they are only linked to convicted cheaters so maybe it should have been wored differently saying "your clan rosta reads like a who's who of convicted cheaters" you should have said "your clan rosta reads like a who's who of ppl linked to convicted cheaters" since all those GUID's are clean. Just wanted to let know this cuz I felt that that other post could have been wored better then it was.

Ok fair enough I just wanted to know that I wasn't just singled out cuz of my assocciation with the clan I play for in Bad League that I'm in cuz of past issues you might have had with certain current members of the clan. No offense is taken Fozzer, MayDax, mRx or maester I will say I'm sry if I came off a little strong but I felt wronged in a way here but now see that things are being fairly taking care of. Yes the server & website no longer exist sadly the clan broke up & the website was hacked by some Arab Anit-War hackass but I do indeed have Admins & am a Leader of in a server if not more servers then just 1 that are still up & running. The 2 biggest issues I had with this as to why I was so miffed is 1. I have my own Scrim Team "clan" I personaly founded & run & with out said access I could no longer keep it clean of cheaters as best as I could with the access so I was pretty mad that this issue had somehow hurt not only the current clan I play for as well as my other clan / scrim team I have while I wasn't even trying to be a part of this issue here as I'm not an admin in Insomani Saints & 2. this hinders me being able to help keep Bad League clean of all cheaters & hackers in it as I am 1 of the ppl helping run the Anti-Cheat checks for the league. I applied for League Admin status here during season 2 of Bad League as mRx can tell you since he was the 1 I spoke to on the issue via pm's but for some reason was never given that status when I filled out all the forms & requirment to become 1 here so I could help keep Bad League cheater free. I'd also like to know how do we go about fixing these issues if no1 in Insomnia Saints has access to let these ppl know they need to appeal said bans cuz all of those GUIDs with * by them are clean they are just linked to hackers weither they are linked to their own hacks from what I've seen here remains to be proven so if the * names are all ppl using clean GUIDs how would they know if they needed to appeal these ceratin bans they are linked to since from what it appears to them they are clean here when they do checks on their GUIDs.

The Game Admin status allowed me access to the MPI3 to run players GUID's to find out if they were clean or not & who they were linked to thats how I was checking all the GUID's for the bad league when I talked with you last -=F4F=-mRx. I have looked & noticed that other players here on the forum still have their Game Admin status so I wonder why they still have it & if what you say is true & all ppl with Game Admins status have been removed why would others still have the status but I don't any longer ??? For the last 6 months I have had this status & all of the sudden just the other day when this post was made & my name was on this list with a clan I play for that wanted to stream but apparently can't cuz all their GUID's on that list are clean just some of them are linked to hacks so were told that they couldn't then all of the sudden my Game Admin status was stripped from me in a matter of hours. I found that really really odd & find it even more odd that I would still have that status here for the last 6 months & it never changed then all the sudden it's gone after this incedent & appeared to me that I was singled out & this was done to me just becuase I play in this clan.

I even forgot to mention that when this issue came up to me that I would rather not get involved with it since I didn't care to have my privilages possibly taken away from me over this issue which I felt real bad for my clan over telling them that cuz you realize how shitty of a thing that sounded for me to have to tell my own clan mates that on TS man that just made me feel like I betrayed them when I said it but I have to look out for my personal Scrim Team I run so it was just in my best interest to me & my team no matter how much I felt it was wrong for me to tell them. But it appears I was entirely right when I told them this but have had it taken away from me when I said nothing a kept out of the issue just telling them that we should just exept the fact we can't stream & help pbbans.com catch hackers on our server which I'm sure we would. Guess it was just to bad I didn't voice myself saying I didn't want to be involved in this issue as I do not have an * by my name as I am clean & didn't care to have my acess's here taken away from me over this then maybe I wouldn't have to be dealing with all this rightnow & could be doing other more usefull things like updating my site of the new hackers busted here in clans I know of & letting their clans know so they can get the heads up & deal with things to keep their clan clean.

Now this has gone way to far & is total bs I have been a pbbans.com Game Admin for about the past 2 years have had only 1 cd-key / GUID for the past 4 years I've played this game & have never once cheated or even thought about cheating I'm 100% clean not linked to any1 & probably 1 of the most legit players left in the game. But now in the last few hours I have had my privilages taken away for no apparent reason that I know of since no1 told me anything threw any kind of pm. So I can only asume that cuz I'm on this roster & play for this clan of ppl you claim are cheaters that my privilages here as a pbbans.com Game Admin were takin away for this reason alone which is a load of crap IMO. I'm not the leader of this clan nor do I have anysay as to who plays for the clan & I'm not asking for Streaming Game Admin status as I have already legitly obtained pbbans.com Game Admin status here & have never abused it or handed out my login in to any1 which I'm sure you can look into I see that no1 from any ip's other then the 1's that are logged in on your system under my GUID were used for my login. Earlyer when I did have my Game Admin status I checked all these GUIDs with the * by them & every1 of them were clean yes some were linked to hacks but weither it was them or not for sure can remain to be proven. Which can be hard to do since I have helped oust ppl hiding behind new cd-keys / GUID's for Bad League as I was their Anti-Cheat staff for season 2 & helped keep the league clean of hackers. Yes there are some ppl on that list with * that I will say are using some new cd-keys / GUID's that I feel I'd rather not have in the clan cuz I asume they have hacked * thats why they needed new cd-key / GUID to appear clean but thats not up to me I'm just a regular clan member & do what I can to help keep the clan clean & inform them of these things when I can what they decide to do as Leaders is up to them. I have also helped in many ways to point out hackers since day 1 of becoming a Game Admin here & have used it to help keep every clan I was a Founder or Leader in Sof2 aka |*WoW*| Warriors of Warcraft, Team. |bS| / bullSh!t >> & WePwnNoobs|wpn clean as possible & have kicked ppl out of my clans from info I found using it. & Now after helping to keep mine & numerious other clans that I have helped check ppl out for when they asked me to do so or informed them when I found out about 1 of their players so they would know about there player being a hacker as well as I helped run Anti-Cheat Staff for Bad League during Season 2 & am currently going to help them out with season 3 to keep the league cheat free which I applied for pbbans.com League Admin for here when I did do Anti-Cheat Staff for Bad League & got little help with that since it was never given to me when I was a legit Anti-Cheat for a league not sure as to why I couldn't obtain that status maybe pbbans.com didn't care about me trying to keep a good league cheat free of hackers cuz Sof2 isn't such an active game anymore & now I have had it taken away for no reason other then my assocciation with a clan that I play for & have no control of who is in the clan thats just total bs IMO when I have helped to do everything I could to oust & let ppl know who ceratin cheaters are in this game as you can see on my website here of my Scrim Team I Founded & run by myself that I have kept clean of cheaters being that so many clans we have beaten have accused us of hacking so I make sure I keep my team spotlessly clean & legit but now how am I to do that when my privilage here have what I feel to be wrongfully taken away from me & how am I to help a league that wanted me to do Anti-Cheat work for them either now as this will also hurt me in helping to make sure the league is clean. The league doesn't care about nor does it witch hunt into players who are linked to hackers as long as the GUID is clean & I nor any1 else can't solidly prove said players that might be hackers hiding behind ne cd-keys / GUIDs they are ok to play. I have proven some in past season that were linked & they were booted from the league as well as some that I would also need to be proving a case against this season that I know were hackers but had new cd-keys / GUIDs but now they wont be ousted & will be allowed to play if I can't make a case against them solid enough & yes 1 of them would have probably been a clan mate of mine if he was still on our roster come start of the new season but thats my job weither they be on my clan or not I don't play bias when it comes to cheaters as I don't tolerate being assocciated with well known cheaters if I can proove or figure out for myself that said ppl are linked to their own hacks. I also have a website for my scrim team that I know many ppl check that I update dailey of the hackers that are from more well known clan or ust well known ppl in the game www.WarriorsofWarcraft.com I'm Sargeras over there aka Sargeras<]*T*[> Founder & 1 of the Co-Leaders of along with (DeZ)Thorny who I think you might know of Maydax. Here's the link to the Chumps Caught hacking sectio I keep up to date http://anime-subs.net/wow/modules.php?name...ewforum&f=8 with what you can see I have made it more clear towards my own team mates I found out were busted more then any1 else to let any1 that comes there know that I kicked them out of the clan & would never ever let them play for us again even helping to inform pbbans.com about 1 of my players using the God mode cheat hack to take over servers 1 being my own clans after he read the forums here that I told ppl about him as retaleation towards me which was a small price to pay for me to get him known for the cheat he had become claiming he was bored with the game so that why he did so. But now I have felt wrongfully betrayed in a way by my own brother in arms to help keep whats left of a real fun game to some ppl cheat free & would like I feel I deserve an explination as to why my privilages here have been yanked out of my hands when I have none nothing but to help your system here in everyway I could being real sry to say I couldn't help more then I have along with even complimenting ppl here for all the hard work they do for all to help keep the games I play cheat free & the new system you have instated here on the new color code as you can see in this post http://www.pbbans.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=22602. As far as some of what I've seen you say here Maydax you have made what should be a non-biased issue & turned it into what appears to be a personal issue towards 1punch beiwhich I feel is the wrong thing for you to be doing since when I ran Anti-Cheat for Bad League I had to be non-biased towards ppl I flat out didn't like but you do your job weither like them or not with out any biased opinions. So I would like some sort of explination if you will plz as to why my privilages have been stripped from as I see no reason why I shouldn't be allowed what I legitly obatined years ago here on this site going threw all the proper channels & agreed to all the terms here when I did so by never sharing cvar or my log in info to any1 even my own clan leaders that I played for that asked me to do so for them cuz I knew if I broke those rules & the promise I made be signing to become a Game Admin here I would have my privilages taken away & wouldn't be able to keep the clan or teams I personaly run clean. So in closing thx you fore your time & any help in the matter if you would like I'd be happy to talk with either of you on TS or vent further about this issue cordially Maydax or Fozzer & will send you my MSN & xfire threw pm if you'd like to chat via that as well.

Damn that sounds great why didn't we get this done sooner this helps alot now in my opinion big thx to who ever thought of doing this.

Hey the other day I noticed when I was checking some players GUID's that I saw new color used for busted players I was wonder whats that about I know light blue means clean, red means dirty & then I see yellow & orange 1's just wondering what those colors ment ???

Ah ok I see what your talking about now thx for the info much apreciated.

Well I was wondering whats up with these 2 latest bans from the =|EvF|= server how the hell can some1 get banned for this: http://www.pbbans.com/mbi.php?action=5&ban_id=12214 & http://www.pbbans.com/mbi.php?action=5&ban_id=12191 Master Bans Index - Ban Info Game Soldier of Fortune II Date Caught August 04, 2006 at 2:38 am GUID IP Address Alias Violation VIOLATION (CVAR) #9001 Extra Info Cvar cg_DrawGun = 1 Caught By =|EvF|= (Rep) Server IP 209.190.30.70:20200 Ban Appealed On Not Appealed & Master Bans Index - Ban Info Game Soldier of Fortune II Date Caught August 03, 2006 at 7:43 pm GUID IP Address Alias Violation VIOLATION (CVAR) #9001 Extra Info Cvar cg_DrawGun = 1 Caught By =|EvF|= (Hub) Server IP 209.190.30.70:20200 Ban Appealed On Not Appealed I would like to know whats up with this & why would ppl get banned for /cg_drawgun 1 cuz from my knowledge it is a command to make your gun appear or disappear weither U have it on 1 or 0. I have a couple of friends of mine from this clan who play on a Team with me & I wonder if they'll get banned for the same thing then they wont be able to play for my Team anymore if they on the ban list. & Now I'm leary of even going into the server now since I use /cg_drawgun 0 when I use a m60 so when I wana make my gun re-appear I'll have to use /cg_drawgun 1 but well I'd be wry'd I might get ban for this sorta thing now in the =|EvF|= server. So if any1 can shed some light on these 2 bans that seem real odd why any1 would get banned for this thing would be much appreciated.