MULIGAN Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Hi I get that message after i join a server and i cant play( i dont use any cheat ) nick ilu7ion_MULIG4N Thx in advance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marekra3 Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 You don't have ban from pbbans, but you have globaly ban from evenbalnce:http://www.pbbans.com/mpi/mpi-guid-search-6df79c16-41.html&showLG=no&showAT=no&safeview=no 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParaEXE Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Hi I get that message after i join a server and i cant play( i dont use any cheat ) nick ilu7ion_MULIG4N Thx in advance http://www.pbbans.com/global-punkbuster-ban.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MULIGAN Posted October 23, 2014 Author Share Posted October 23, 2014 Thx for the info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PapyDiesel Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 There is a massive banwave this violation and I'm seeing on various btlog topics and other forums where players say they have not made use of hack,this would be one more EvenBalance mistake of how these violations? http://www.pbbans.com/forums/viol-81567-bans-removed-bf3-t189828.html http://www.pbbans.com/forums/viol-81568-bans-removed-bf4-t189829.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loggie64 Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Im thinking too, that this ban 81570 could be perhpas a failure at evenbalance - too much people i know have gotten these ban. I really dont know if they do cheat but i do not believe it. Interessting fact is, that all of them are using Kaspersky Pure. If this could be the reason for the ban? only evenbalance would know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperTaz Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Im thinking too, that this ban 81570 could be perhpas a failure at evenbalance - too much people i know have gotten these ban. I really dont know if they do cheat but i do not believe it. Interessting fact is, that all of them are using Kaspersky Pure. If this could be the reason for the ban? only evenbalance would know. I just played using the Kaspersky Pure and I did not get kicked. I played multiple rounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loggie64 Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Hey SuperTaz, thanks for testing this with kaspersky pure. - like i posted: this is the programm all 4 users were using. But i know that this means nothing. I thought that could be a hint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pipes1 Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 it never hurts to try, there is always a chance that a legit program can cause a violation trigger. keep thinking and remember not everyone tells the full truth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DetlefDeeSost Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 (edited) 639 Bans for GAME HACK #81570 This is 99% a false positive, even iam scared to play because maybe i will be banned too for this false positive,and EB is ignoring it. Maybe a Windows Update,maybe some new driver update,or a program with a screenshot or stream function is causing it.Who knows. :crazy: :crazy: Edited November 4, 2014 by DetlefDeeSost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBStaff_Nick Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 639 Bans for GAME HACK #81570 This is 99% a false positive, even iam scared to play because maybe i will be banned too for this false positive,and EB is ignoring it. Maybe a Windows Update,maybe some new driver update,or a program with a screenshot or stream function is causing it.Who knows. :crazy: :crazy: :rolleyes: 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OscaMike Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 639 Bans for GAME HACK #81570 This is 99% a false positive, even iam scared to play because maybe i will be banned too for this false positive,and EB is ignoring it. Maybe a Windows Update,maybe some new driver update,or a program with a screenshot or stream function is causing it.Who knows. :crazy: :crazy: 29.09 - 04.11 - 647 Bans for Game Hack #81570 ... but it's definitely not a false ban. Punkbuster never ever banned people because of false positives. They banned this 647 people in one month not just for fun. But I don’t want to say that this people cheated as Punkbuster have no way to know who triggered the violation. If it is certain that no one who have played on their computers ever had a cheat/hack violation triggered by PunkBuster, then maybe their GUIDs have been stolen by or leaked to someone who has used it on a different computer to trigger the violation. Maybe if 2000 people get banned for this violation it could be a false positive. 5000 and more you can be sure its a false positive. So you dont have to be scared to play ... :brownbag: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marksman.cro Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 (edited) well some of bans for sure are false positive. my friend was banned after 2400 hours of clean play. I watched him playing many times and he had always constant good stats before and in time when the ban was triggered. His account and guid was not compromised and he never had installed any cheats even for single players. So you are wrong do you think that someone over 40 years old would after 2400 hours of play used hacks to have same/similar stats as before?? Edited November 4, 2014 by marksman.cro 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DetlefDeeSost Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 29.09 - 04.11 - 647 Bans for Game Hack #81570 ... but it's definitely not a false ban. Punkbuster never ever banned people because of false positives. Are you kidding me=?There were many false positives in the past by Punkbuster: http://www.pbbans.com/forums/mbi-news-f424.html 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marksman.cro Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 (edited) Yes, and did you noticed how many new accounts with only just several hours of play all with green stats have been banned? Many of those players complaining and persistently denying cheating. Why they would do that if they are guilty when new key is just several dollars? Edited November 4, 2014 by marksman.cro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OscaMike Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Are you kidding me=?There were many false positives in the past by Punkbuster: http://www.pbbans.com/forums/mbi-news-f424.html I know. Thought you meant it ironically … so therefore my reply was ironical too But for many people Punkbuster is still infallible ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fozzer Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 I do not see anything productive or informative coming from leaving this topic open for much longer, so do not be surprised to find it locked in the near future.Even Balance employ numerous detection patterns to detect online cheating.Unfortunately, with the amount of free software available for download these days (anti virus / overlays etc etc) a small amount of those detection patterns are later proven to be "false positives".Even more unfortunate is that the small amount draw publicity and the vast majority of successful detection patterns are just taken for granted. As it stands right now #81570 is a valid cheat violation that is also accompanied by a global ban issued by Even Balance themselves. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MULIGAN Posted November 6, 2014 Author Share Posted November 6, 2014 (edited) I made some research about this nice GAMEHACK 81570Data from ggc-stream.net First ban gamehack : 29/9/14data collected from 29/9/14 - 3/11/14--------------------------------------------total bans :4688total bans gamehack 81570: 906GAMEHACK 1095AIMBOT 1610MULTIHACK 1152Screenshot 282PBHACK 162md5 tool 132others 255---------------------------------------------pbbans+ ggc= 1600 bans ( approximate)TOTAL PLAYERS BANNED: 1600 (GAMEHACK) 81570 Nice work pb....... I know. Thought you meant it ironically … so therefore my reply was ironical too But for many people Punkbuster is still infallible ... Yes?? Why u think Dice implement fairplay on bf 4? Edited November 6, 2014 by MULIGAN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MULIGAN Posted November 6, 2014 Author Share Posted November 6, 2014 (edited) delete Edited November 6, 2014 by MULIGAN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fozzer Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 delete Fail ... I am sure you meant to post Lock. With the total lack of meaningful input ... even from the topic starter and recipient of a globalguid ban, there is not much point in leaving this topic open. If all you have given Even Balance is stats from third party anti cheat sites, and flawed stats to boot, then I can confidently predict that you have no chance of having your globalguid ban lifted. Only a small portion of servers actually stream their logs via a third party streaming service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParaEXE Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 (edited) Look this one.. #1 (Screenshot Submit 3 Hours before to..., Date.:09/29/14) http://screens.pbscreens.com/pbimg/1224/original/5c86fa7d0e89b468a7fbc10313d39f93.png #2 (,....GGC - Stream Uploaded 09/29/14) http://www.ggc-stream.net/search/server/guid/game/38/gid/079AF8132BC6E62C7AA64250BA530C1E #3 (cached with Violation #81570 Date.:09/29/14) http://www.pbbans.com/mbi-viewban-ba530c1e-vb369727.html #4 ( Same guy with one PBss and two #81570 Gamehack) http://www.anticheatinc.net/forums/bansearch.php?search=TheToker1&game=bf3 the screenshot and the Violation look for me for are Valid Ban! Its was my founding an i hope it helps Greetings Para Edited November 6, 2014 by ParaEXE 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marksman.cro Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 (edited) I do not see anything productive or informative coming from leaving this topic open for much longer, so do not be surprised to find it locked in the near future. Even Balance employ numerous detection patterns to detect online cheating. Unfortunately, with the amount of free software available for download these days (anti virus / overlays etc etc) a small amount of those detection patterns are later proven to be "false positives". Even more unfortunate is that the small amount draw publicity and the vast majority of successful detection patterns are just taken for granted. As it stands right now #81570 is a valid cheat violation that is also accompanied by a global ban issued by Even Balance themselves. Even more is unfortunate that only some of bans are false and draw such attention??? Are you one who was hit by false ban? My friend now cant play bf4 because he does not know what triggered ban on his machine and because of that he can get false ban on that game too. He payed 100$ bf3 premiuim and same as much bf4 premium. He spend over 2000 euros on hardware to play those games.Now he cant play those games without been guilty for anything.On top of that he is marked as cheater and he cant clear his name because evenbalance does not want to conffes flaws in theit anticheat system and it OK with them to have some "colateral damage". How would you fell if you were in place of my friend?How would you feel if you lost pbbans staff status because punkbuster marked you as cheater even you never installed any kind of cheats on your computer? Would you then write same as now? Edited November 6, 2014 by marksman.cro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marksman.cro Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 (edited) Look this one.. #1 (Screenshot Submit 3 Hours before to..., Date.:09/29/14) http://screens.pbscreens.com/pbimg/1224/original/5c86fa7d0e89b468a7fbc10313d39f93.png #2 (,....GGC - Stream Uploaded 09/29/14) http://www.ggc-stream.net/search/server/guid/game/38/gid/079AF8132BC6E62C7AA64250BA530C1E #3 (cached with Violation #81570 Date.:09/29/14) http://www.pbbans.com/mbi-viewban-ba530c1e-vb369727.html #4 ( Same guy with one PBss and two #81570 Gamehack) http://www.anticheatinc.net/forums/bansearch.php?search=TheToker1&game=bf3 the screenshot and the Violation look for me for are Valid Ban! Its was my founding an i hope it helps Greetings Para Who ever said that there are no legit bans for this violation??? Its not the point here, point is that same violation was triggered for some legal software interfering with punkbuster! Edited November 6, 2014 by marksman.cro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBStaff_Nick Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 Marksman you keep saying you have been hit by this ban, how about posting your PB guid so i can check, there is nothing i have seen which makes this a FP, 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MULIGAN Posted November 6, 2014 Author Share Posted November 6, 2014 Marksman you keep saying you have been hit by this ban, how about posting your PB guid so i can check, there is nothing i have seen which makes this a FP, Hi Can u check check my ban? Since i never used third party software to take advantage. I tried 5 days ago to get in server and I keep getting banned, so the proccess, driver or software keep running on my machine I can give u my list proccess and software if u want Thx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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