surfy Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 only issue with that is how would you justify it so its fair for everyone. whats not to say thos was to happen again and then later find that the player gets banned for a pb violation. Then said person would be banned officially, not out of spite. ;) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dugandjo Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Then said person would be banned officially, not out of spite. ;) Indeed. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Nickname Posted April 11, 2015 Author Share Posted April 11, 2015 Which won't happen because I have an image to uphold at least to those who know me well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigErnie Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 I was told by one of the former admins from FUB, and now an admin for us, that this person had bought hacks to experiment with. The former admin told me that he played extensively with said hacks under the name "Rent-A-Skills". He also told me how you explained everything about the hacks. I also based this on watching your game play for about 3-4 hours. I watched you track people through walls. I watched you go back to flag and tracking people that there was no way for you to know where they were. I had this discussion in our TS with other admins. Your hacking account Rent-A-Skills will forever be linked to your account via static IP. Having gamed with you for over 7 years back to BF2, I know you are hacking. I know your skill level. I witnessed it and I played against you for years, I don't mean to make this sound condescending, but facts are facts. I made the sole decision to uphold the ban. The said 3rd party list everyone is whining about, is not recognized by PBBans so should be no issue here. If other clans do not like how we take the time to watch people before we ban them, then they have the ability to "not follow" our clans bans. Our clan has removed other clans from our followed list. We do not ban unless an admin has watched the player long enough to witness events that cannot be explained without hacks. We do not take lightly making bans and your ban took over a week of discussion with all our admins and almost all of them watched your game play. We made a unanimous decision to make the ban. I appreciate everyone's comment and suggestions, but this is not a matter for PBBans. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSMagnet Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 you were told? hearsay... static IP linked? ...show me,please local bans are one thing, adding anything to a public ban list without verifiable proof is irresponsible and vindictive maybe your list can be tagged as ill advised to follow. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigErnie Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 you were told? hearsay... static IP linked? ...show me,please local bans are one thing, adding anything to a public ban list without verifiable proof is irresponsible and vindictive maybe your list can be tagged as ill advised to follow. Search this website for the ips of "Rent-A-Skillz" in bf3. That name has a cheat level of 100% in BF3 and the ips are exactly the same as said person. Like I said about the banlist in question, Don't like it, don't follow it, I don't know how much clearer that can get. We will maintain our own servers and our own banlist. Our clan did enough leg work on this ban. Why else would you name yourself "Rent-A-Skills(z)?" Scott and Chris, were both part of the anti-cheat at FUB during BF2, and yes I was told from a friend of over 10 years, one of the 2 previous names. If you don't know those people, then obviously hearsay should mean less to you than me. How do I know these people's name, I KNOW THEM, do you? If you want personal proof of a first person conversation, I am sure I can arrange that. If you don't care, then let him in your BF3 and BF4 servers. I don't really care what happens beyond this post. It will not change my mind and you obviously did not read that I followed him in first person FOR SEVERAL HOURS along with several other admins. To me the only ban that should not be held in question is first person watching someone hack. We all know there are hacks out there that are not detectable. I research players names, accounts profiles, and anything that can be used to justify a ban. I have personally sent Evenbalance several sites that were not in their sights. He played in our servers for at least 3 weeks while we watched his game play. I do not take banning lightly as stated before. I can count on one hand the amount of people I have banned from first person spectator(not including the obvious hackers flipping around like meth heads on withdrawal). I out right defend ALL people accused of hacking and I am the final say, because I spend the time watching people, sometimes more than I get to game. AND ONCE AGAIN, THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH PBBANS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Nickname Posted April 19, 2015 Author Share Posted April 19, 2015 (edited) I was told by one of the former admins from FUB, and now an admin for us, that this person had bought hacks to experiment with. The former admin told me that he played extensively with said hacks under the name "Rent-A-Skills". He also told me how you explained everything about the hacks. I also based this on watching your game play for about 3-4 hours. I watched you track people through walls. I watched you go back to flag and tracking people that there was no way for you to know where they were. I had this discussion in our TS with other admins. Your hacking account Rent-A-Skills will forever be linked to your account via static IP. Having gamed with you for over 7 years back to BF2, I know you are hacking. I know your skill level. I witnessed it and I played against you for years, I don't mean to make this sound condescending, but facts are facts. I made the sole decision to uphold the ban. The said 3rd party list everyone is whining about, is not recognized by PBBans so should be no issue here. If other clans do not like how we take the time to watch people before we ban them, then they have the ability to "not follow" our clans bans. Our clan has removed other clans from our followed list. We do not ban unless an admin has watched the player long enough to witness events that cannot be explained without hacks. We do not take lightly making bans and your ban took over a week of discussion with all our admins and almost all of them watched your game play. We made a unanimous decision to make the ban. I appreciate everyone's comment and suggestions, but this is not a matter for PBBans. Have you ever wondered that *GASP* I might have gotten better since BF2 and now play competitive?? Also I doubt you know how effective a 7.1 surround sound headset is for gaming that allows you to soundwhore for kills and it's easiest in Metro where there aren't that many flanking avenues. This is my headset by the way: http://www.razerzone.com/gaming-audio/razer-tiamat-71 soundwhoring Used especially in egoshootes, listening to enemy footsteps with headsets, to know from which corner the enemy will pop out Edited April 19, 2015 by No_Nickname Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigErnie Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 Have you ever wondered that *GASP* I might have gotten better since BF2 and now play competitive?? Also I doubt you know how effective a 7.1 surround sound headset is for gaming that allows you to soundwhore for kills and it's easiest in Metro where there aren't that many flanking avenues. This is my headset by the way: http://www.razerzone.com/gaming-audio/razer-tiamat-71 After gaming with you, no. I had a hacker/former clan member I banned from our clan, BEFORE he got caught, who claimed, "Oh I just got better because I play on a 42" TV screen. There is nothing that a 0.7 k2d ratio player in bf2 can buy, other than hacks, that makes him a <2.5 k2d ratio player. Time, patience and training, maybe, nothing that makes you that great that fast. You do remember who you came to when you needed someone to make the final call on hackers? MMMMMEEEEEE, remember that? I was the one you came to asking if these stats were impossible, game play was suspect. You told me a great many times, you respected my opinion and would ban that person based on what I said. Simply because I take the time to watch people. I don't stats farm, unless something is obvious, like the attached picture and a personal vouching from Chris, who you had a long conversations with about the hacks you bought. I was there also when you talked about buying them, just not when you actually did. Here is the argument that you present; I am not hacking because you have no proof. That is what someone prior pretty much stated. That argument is also what every hackers presents. This reminds me of Jean Luc Picard talking about the Borg, "Here is where we draw the line, right here" (with all your english accent you can muster). Those people who complain about our ban list seem to have the idea that we must follow the bans from PB and other 3rd party streamers only. The line consists of hackers on the left and everyone else on the right. OMG. VI banned someone where there was no proof!!!! The audacity! The outrage! They aren't even on the ban list!!!! The thing to remember is no one was banned instantly or before they were gaming to be put on the ban list. The reality is EVERYONE was on the right, a non hacker. At some point in time, the hackers were non hackers. WHAT!!! YOU HAVE NO PROOF!!!! Yes, that is true, no one is instantly caught. The very argument that there is no proof so we can't add them to our list is just childish. By that very rule we should let the person who goes 300+ kills almost instantly be allowed to run amok in our servers, because they aren't PB or 3rd party banned. The reality of the situation is; The line consists of caught hackers on the left and on the right; hackers who haven't been caught yet, hackers who probably will never be caught, and everyone else. We have one person who we banned and probably will never will be banned by PB or any 3rd party system. I won't go into a discussion about how this is done, but when we searched his name after numerous complaints. We found him giving instructions, with the same name he games with, on a website of how not to get caught hacking. After we banned that account, 2 days later he was back with a new GUID. The first GUID having never been globally or 3rd party banned. By the reasoning put forth here, he should be ALLOWED to play in our servers. This will never happen as long as I run the clan. CLEAN GUIDS DO NOT MEAN SOMEONE ISN'T HACKING. That respect you game me as the leader of our own anti-cheat within our clan, deal with it hacker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wirefire2 Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 NoNickname(or whatever the hell his name is) would like you all to gloss over the fact that we actually have evidence. He's clearly connected to Rent-A-Skillz from his BF3 alt and another game where he USES the name Rent-a-Skillz. The BF3 account has very blatant hack stats. You can ignore it or say the website providing the information is crappy (another hacker trick to blame someone else that caught them). Then we must have the world's largest coincidence that there is a VAC ban for Rent-A-Skillz with the same spelling, hyphens, and even capitalization. Now you can say all day long that it's not you. But it is you and you're not fooling us. You're still banned. You're still metabanned. If someone that follows our ban wants to believe this 40ft pile of horseshit that you're not hacking then they can put you on their protected list and you can hack their servers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSMagnet Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 be civil or be gone 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benway Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 r handbags civil? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Nickname Posted April 21, 2015 Author Share Posted April 21, 2015 be civil or be gone I apologize HSMagnet, all I wanted to do is ask a simple question which I had hoped wouldn't turn into a flame war. If I have done anything wrong, I am more then willing to discuss it through PM's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSMagnet Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 oh, it isn't you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Nickname Posted April 21, 2015 Author Share Posted April 21, 2015 (edited) oh, it isn't you Oh, I guess I'm really bad at this then and I was kinda confused since I didn't see my last post after the blank one. Edited April 21, 2015 by No_Nickname Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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