Cappy1892 Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 I have read this thread with interest, having been involved in Call of Duty 4 Clans for over five years. I am now a Clan Leader of a successful Clan and have never installed PunkBuster on any of them. PunkBuster is unnecessary if you Admin your servers on a regular basis and lets face it, if you are running a server for the benefit of the players, you should be. PunkBuster has so many shortcomings that any benefits of using it or outweighed by the problems. I find it hard to believe that serious CoD4 players think that PunkBuster is somehow essential, as some contributors to this thread have said: In common with many Clans who run successful Call of Duty 4 servers without PunkBuster, I see no sign of the popularity of this game decreasing. Subsequent versions of Call of Duty have been forgotten, but Call of Duty 4; Modern Warfare lives on. JUst curious,as to why you would come on to this site PBBans{punkbusterbans} and say PB is a waste of time? Sure i agree a keen eyed admin is invaluable, but ill tell you something for nothing, even the sharp eyed admins miss "smart" hackers,heck we even had a guy in our clan 3 years ago, that was suspect to the point of me watching numerous videos of him and finding no conclusive evidence.but he was caught by PB and once confronted with the evidence he admitted it. So ill humbly agree to disagree, PB has a place, sure its not infallible, but then again even a keen eyed admin aint. so the more counter measures you take the better the outcome 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivormills Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 (edited) JUst curious,as to why you would come on to this site PBBans{punkbusterbans} and say PB is a waste of time? Sure i agree a keen eyed admin is invaluable, but ill tell you something for nothing, even the sharp eyed admins miss "smart" hackers,heck we even had a guy in our clan 3 years ago, that was suspect to the point of me watching numerous videos of him and finding no conclusive evidence.but he was caught by PB and once confronted with the evidence he admitted it. So ill humbly agree to disagree, PB has a place, sure its not infallible, but then again even a keen eyed admin aint. so the more counter measures you take the better the outcome My reason for responding to this thread was my concern, that there appeared to be genuine belief that PunkBuster support meant the end of CoD4 as we know it, nothing of course could be further from the truth. I am sure, as you have said, that some find PunkBuster an essential part of running a CoD4 server. My post, from someone who has never added PunkBuster to a server, is intended to give assurance, that without PunkBuster, it is still possible to run successful servers. More input maybe required from your Admins, but taking a hands on approach rather than leaving it to the machine, can give give a much better understanding of the game, for Admins and players alike. Edited February 13, 2015 by ivormills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soldierdjo Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Dear Ivormills of course you can run a server without Pb. Please do it ! Advertise it ! Worldwide ! This will be comparable as honey for flies. Your server will attract cheaters who will desert our dedicated streamed ones (and administrated ones). Go ahead Best Djo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivormills Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Dear Ivormills of course you can run a server without Pb. Please do it ! Advertise it ! Worldwide ! This will be comparable as honey for flies. Your server will attract cheaters who will desert our dedicated streamed ones (and administrated ones). Go ahead Best Djo I appreciate your comments, however what you are suggesting does no happen in real life. If you have a well moderated server with experienced Admins and a good rule set, you attract players who appreciate that environment. The cheaters that you refer to are not an issue for us, as they are immediately recognised by the Admins and removed. If you are running servers that are unmoderated and left to their own devices, then I understand that the withdrawal of PunkBuster support must be of concern to you. If you run servers professionally with experienced Admins 24/7, the absence of PunkBuster support should be irrelevant, if you don't.........you have a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSMagnet Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 kudos to you on having a 24/7/365 admin corps. most clans/communities/groups do not i also take assistance where it can be found. PunkBuster is but one tool in the arsenal of a good admin. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fozzer Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Just off the top of my head.Even Balance have dropped support for the COD series but you can still run PB enabled servers.By using the legacy PB files in the PBBans downloads section a server admin can prevent;keygen users joining their servers.pbguid spoofers using their servers.A server admin can also utilize;MD5 cheat related scans.cvar cheat related scans.PB screenshots that can be verified as untampered with.Ingame demo's that can be verified as untampered with.PBBans streaming servers are also subject to generic cvar scans and, exclusive to PBBans, cheat file matches.As always, there are still players raising valid PB cheat violations and still being added to the PBBans ban list.Example;http://www.pbbans.com/mbi-viewban-9a0c2fe3-vb384032.htmlThe PBBans Hub will keep 95,199 (and counting) proven cheaters off your servers.The PBBans Hub will provide welcome messages for joining players.There is the PBBans Hub "live" feature and probably a lot more to list if I had time to waste researching pros and cons of running PB enabled COD4 servers V no PB COD4 servers.Pros of running PB enabled COD4 servers = all of the above.Cons of running PB enabled COD4 servers = it requires a little effort to get things up and running.Pros of running none PB enabled COD4 servers = it takes no effort to get a server up and running.Cons of running none PB enabled COD4 servers = you attract all the riff raff that the game has to offer and none of the above is applicable to you. What's the point of having admins on a server with no PB 24/7 :unsure: no matter how many cheaters / undesirables you get rid of, they can reconnect within a minute with no problem what so ever. Strikes me that it's not the server admins streaming here with a problem :P 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mckay1988 Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 i dont have the punkbustera.exe which is needed for pb :(any solution? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exzz Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 @mckay1988 - Try downloading this file and replace it with the existing one: http://eu.cybergamer.com/files/6854/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SgtTAtari Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 Here is a small tool that lets you update the PB files for Call of Duty 1 through 5 and a few others games the discontinued.http://ysiclan.eu/pb 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gotcha Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 Just off the top of my head. Even Balance have dropped support for the COD series but you can still run PB enabled servers. By using the legacy PB files in the PBBans downloads section a server admin can prevent; keygen users joining their servers. pbguid spoofers using their servers. A server admin can also utilize; MD5 cheat related scans. cvar cheat related scans. PB screenshots that can be verified as untampered with. Ingame demo's that can be verified as untampered with. PBBans streaming servers are also subject to generic cvar scans and, exclusive to PBBans, cheat file matches. As always, there are still players raising valid PB cheat violations and still being added to the PBBans ban list. Example; http://www.pbbans.com/mbi-viewban-9a0c2fe3-vb384032.html The PBBans Hub will keep 95,199 (and counting) proven cheaters off your servers. The PBBans Hub will provide welcome messages for joining players. There is the PBBans Hub "live" feature and probably a lot more to list if I had time to waste researching pros and cons of running PB enabled COD4 servers V no PB COD4 servers. Pros of running PB enabled COD4 servers = all of the above. Cons of running PB enabled COD4 servers = it requires a little effort to get things up and running. Pros of running none PB enabled COD4 servers = it takes no effort to get a server up and running. Cons of running none PB enabled COD4 servers = you attract all the riff raff that the game has to offer and none of the above is applicable to you. What's the point of having admins on a server with no PB 24/7 :unsure: no matter how many cheaters / undesirables you get rid of, they can reconnect within a minute with no problem what so ever. Strikes me that it's not the server admins streaming here with a problem :P where is the latest pb update, cant get it off webby due to co4 being removed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSMagnet Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 @mckay1988 - Try downloading this file and replace it with the existing one: http://eu.cybergamer.com/files/6854/ Here is a small tool that lets you update the PB files for Call of Duty 1 through 5 and a few others games the discontinued. http://ysiclan.eu/pb where is the latest pb update, cant get it off webby due to co4 being removed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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