colmusturd Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 hi does anyone know what multihack #70416 is. we had a player banned from our server just now but he insists he does not hack. i must admit hes not the greatest player ive seen is there a way to find out what that hack number means. thank-you for any help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxdie Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 he should open a trouble ticket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colmusturd Posted August 16, 2006 Author Share Posted August 16, 2006 would he recieve that multihack #70416 ban if he didnt use a hack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxdie Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 As far as I know #70416 is a valid violation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colmusturd Posted August 16, 2006 Author Share Posted August 16, 2006 he appealed his ban but his appeal was denied, does this mean there is no mistake and he WAS using hacks, and thanks for helping out foxdie colmusturd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcE Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 It's a valid violation untill we get informed otherwise by EB, Untill then the ban stays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colmusturd Posted August 17, 2006 Author Share Posted August 17, 2006 hi again his appeal was denied but he still got back on our server yesterday, he said all he did to get back on was uninstall et then reinstalled it. is it that easy to get round a pb ban? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxdie Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 in ET yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colmusturd Posted August 17, 2006 Author Share Posted August 17, 2006 would you recommend we ban him through rcon from our servers then. if he has cheated and got back in there is always that chance he will do it again is how we see it at NB. would you agree with that assumption col musturd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxdie Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 its up to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colmusturd Posted August 17, 2006 Author Share Posted August 17, 2006 ok thank-you, i am not doubting pbbans system in anyway, its great to have such a valuable ally on our servers, i just wanted to be sure there could be no mistake with his multihack ban before he is banned by us. thanks again for your time and help col musturd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colmusturd Posted August 19, 2006 Author Share Posted August 19, 2006 hi again sorry about this, but quite a few people who have read this thread feel there is still doubt over this ban http://www.pbbans.com/mbi.php?action=5&ban_id=12483 because no-one here will actually comit and say it was not a mistake they feel this may be the case. the accused is 14 years old and doesnt have much computer knowledge, he appealed the ban which was denied and he sais he was given no reason why it was denied, but on another thread somewhere on this forum i read that evenbalance send an e-mail with their reasons, is this correct, as he has not shown or mentioned any e-mail reply from EB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fozzer Posted August 19, 2006 Share Posted August 19, 2006 let me clarify things for you m8 :) - anyone that has raised a violation for any of the following: Cheat/Hack Violations: When PunkBuster detects a cheat or hack by repeated positive identification on a player's computer, a violation is raised. These violation numbers are 50000 and higher. Families of cheats are listed below. Resolution: Remove cheats and hacks from the computer. #50000s - Aimbot #60000s - Wallhack #70000s - Multihack #80000s - Gamehack #90000s - 'Cheat' Video Drivers #100000s - Speedhack #110000s - Autofire #120000s - Game Hook #130000s - Attempted PunkBuster Hack can only be removed from any anti-cheat ban list if EvenBalance tell us it was a false positive (false positive = a mistake) - false positives are normally caused by some other software programme running at the same time as the game and causing an abnormal reaction from PB software, i have never heard of a false positive being raised for a multihack offence. The only way forward for this particular player would be to raise a trouble ticket with EvenBalance and they will investigate the matter, but seeing as he has done a fresh install of ET this route would be pointless, as the player has to duplicate the violation using the same setup as he was using when the violation was raised. If no one else has said this before let me say it now, the owner of pbguid 02d4a58aff3bc0435f4d9059086d5a85 will stay on our banlist for a multihack violation and all his subsequent pguid's will be linked on our MPI3 to that violation. With ET being a free game it generates a new pbguid with each install, so his current pbguid will allow him to play as normal (he could have just deleted his ETkey file in main it would have the same effect) - its that easy. I dont care how old he is or how computer literate he is, he had a full blown PB hack violation raised against him and in 99.99% of cases, that = hacker. If a ban is appealed to PBBans for further investigation it gets looked at and voted on as to wether it stays on the master ban index or gets rescinded - appeals for full blown pb detections get rejected as standard and the automated mail reply will only state that it has been rejected and nothing else. To sum up - there is no doubt and no mistake was made - 02d4a58aff3bc0435f4d9059086d5a85 had a multihack violation flagged against it and will stay on the Master Ban Index. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
}DR{Black_Hawk Posted August 19, 2006 Share Posted August 19, 2006 (edited) the accused is 14 years old and doesnt have much computer knowledge Unfortunately these days you don't need a lot of Computer knowledge. All what you need is google cheats for the game your playing. A lot of theses young players do that even before they install the game itself. :angry: One of these days they will realize that they can't cheat their way through life and they will become respected players, if it's not already too late. Edited August 19, 2006 by }DR{Black_Hawk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colmusturd Posted August 19, 2006 Author Share Posted August 19, 2006 (edited) thank-you fozzer. hopefully one day et will be cheat free, please keep up all the good work you all do at pbbans. :) Edited August 19, 2006 by colmusturd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fozzer Posted August 19, 2006 Share Posted August 19, 2006 thank-you fozzer. hopefully one day et will be cheat free, please keep up all the good work you all do at pbbans. :) np m8 - as long as we have admins that elect to stream to the PBBans repository we will continue to do our best to keep those admins fully up to date with anti cheat info :) We will also do our best to answer any question you may have in a professional, courteous and informative manner - it may be unpalatable at times but all we can offer is truth - what you do with that truth is entirely your concern, but at least your now in possession of all the relevant facts to help you with any decision you may make in the future concerning players who are flagged up with full blown pb hack detections. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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