=BIA=BOOMSTICK Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Well the title says it all, I thought we were all on the same team. Apparently not seeing as it would seem that PBBans does everything in it's power to deny server streaming. I've been streaming for a month to PunkBusted with no problem yet everytime I apply here I get a different snippet from the ToS. The first application was denied because I had the wrong kind of email address, so I corrected this problem by hooking up a mail server. I applied again this time and my application is thrown in to the Temp & Perm Denied Applications. This is bull, someone can't use a dedicated home server they have to stream? It's not like it's my personal computer I mean hell it's running Server 2k3. You guys should seriously think about your policy's because denying people trying to make COD4 safer isen't going to get anyone anywhere. I hope this can be resolved and I hold firm in my belief that it will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky_Fr4gg3r Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 (edited) Whilst I personally agree to what you are saying, PBB have very valid reasons for having these rules. It was only due to recent(ish) events that some of these were implemented. Edited January 19, 2009 by Lucky_Fr4gg3r Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
=BIA=BOOMSTICK Posted January 19, 2009 Author Share Posted January 19, 2009 (edited) Whilst I personally agree to what you are saying, PBB have very valid reasons for having these rules. It was only due to recent(ish) events that these were implemented. But I mean, if people can verify that it is legit and doing good why would someone deny it? I maintain a very good uptime with my servers and everything? I'd have to go and buy a $30 a month server just so I can sleep better at night about cheaters? Thats BS when I have a quad core server sitting right next to me sitting on my Boost package. Maybe if the "Rules" were just a little bit less harsh the gaming world might be safer as a whole (Which to my understanding is the purpose of PBBans). Edited January 19, 2009 by =BIA=BOOMSTICK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duality Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 This is bull, someone can't use a dedicated home server they have to stream? It's not like it's my personal computer I mean hell it's running Server 2k3. There is no reason why a server's IP should ever end up on the MPI. Bottom line, there is no reason a server should be "playing the games" it hosts. That's indicated when it shows on the MPi. The checks are there for security reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlintime Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Quote from PBBans TOS: 1.1 Game Server - A game server shall be defined as a network server running a program that acts as a hub for clients to connect to for the purpose of interaction. For the purposes of clarification, PBBans will only allow streaming from dedicated servers and not from LAN or personal computers. Your server falls in the LAN category therefore cannot be allowed to stream. Co-Locate the server in a dedicated data center that is not in your home then it can be considered as a streaming candidate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
=BIA=BOOMSTICK Posted January 19, 2009 Author Share Posted January 19, 2009 (edited) There is no reason why a server's IP should ever end up on the MPI. Bottom line, there is no reason a server should be "playing the games" it hosts. That's indicated when it shows on the MPi. Why is that? Your telling me that people like me can't buy a server solely for COD4/COD5 and host it in house with and upgraded bandwidth package? That is stupid, your telling me that I need to spend $90 on three servers just so I can have an IP off the MPI? At worst part about PBBans is that when they deny your application you cannot respond to the thread and dispute it. They give no hint as to who to dispute it to or anything? I've been trying so long to get everything up and running and this is the last thing I want on my servers. I got PunkBusted up in a matter of 15 minutes and was satisfied but apparently you need to be perfect for PBbans. As per that MPI you'll see it's a different GUIID then my current one and that more then I have used that key. It was something that got passed round among squad members at Rude N Crude till -RNC-Killa got caught cheating with it. I've had my fair share of shared keys but it's all done now. At which point we all bought valid keys.Also who said the server was playing the game? It's dedicated, hiding in a corner. Edited January 19, 2009 by =BIA=BOOMSTICK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
=BIA=BOOMSTICK Posted January 19, 2009 Author Share Posted January 19, 2009 Quote from PBBans TOS: Your server falls in the LAN category therefore cannot be allowed to stream. Co-Locate the server in a dedicated data center that is not in your home then it can be considered as a streaming candidate. Why can I just not run it here, I just don't understand the problem with the idea that *Gasp* Oh shit I have a server and it's dedicated. What being the problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duality Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 The rules are there for a reason and they are not up for debate. If your application thread was closed then there was nothing stopping you sending a PM to any staff member to discuss and clarify your application status. I am not concerned with your banned GUID - the fact is that your server box was used to play the game that it is hosting, which we do not allow under any circumstances. The checks exist for security reasons. If you decide to co-locate your server box at a known datacenter, you can by all means reapply for streaming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
=BIA=BOOMSTICK Posted January 19, 2009 Author Share Posted January 19, 2009 The rules are there for a reason and they are not up for debate. If your application thread was closed then there was nothing stopping you sending a PM to any staff member to discuss and clarify your application status. I am not concerned with your banned GUID - the fact is that your server box was used to play the game that it is hosting, which we do not allow under any circumstances. The checks exist for security reasons. FOR THE LAST TIME THE SERVER BOX WAS NOT USED TO PLAY THE GAME. I HAVE A GAMING MACHINE FOR THAT. The server is a server. Just under the same static IP. (Sorry for the caps, I understand your trying to help.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duality Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 FOR THE LAST TIME THE SERVER BOX WAS NOT USED TO PLAY THE GAME. I HAVE A GAMING MACHINE FOR THAT. The server is a server. Just under the same static IP. (Sorry for the caps, I understand your trying to help.) From the MPI data we can discern that at some point, your server's IP was used to play the game. Which means that either the server itself was used, or both the server and your gaming machine are connected via the same router - giving them both the same external IP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlintime Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 PBBans is a privately run Anti-Cheat site. The rule to not allow streaming from home (LAN) located systems is in place for several reasons. FOR THE LAST TIME THE SERVER BOX WAS NOT USED TO PLAY THE GAME. I HAVE A GAMING MACHINE FOR THAT. The server is a server. Just under the same static IP. (Sorry for the caps, I understand your trying to help.) The public IP for your server is the same as your gaming machine. This means the game server is located on your home network and will not be allowed to stream. As Duality stated, this is not up for debate. This is our rule as a privately run Anti-Cheat site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
=BIA=BOOMSTICK Posted January 19, 2009 Author Share Posted January 19, 2009 (edited) From the MPI data we can discern that at some point, your server's IP was used to play the game. Which means that either the server itself was used, or both the server and your gaming machine are connected via the same router - giving them both the same external IP. They are, there is no problem with that in my eyes. It's the same static ip but it is a dedicated server. As in nothing to do with my gaming machine. I host COD:W@W,COD4,And BF1942 all on it. Nothing having to do with playing. It's comical to me to be sitting here trying to fight to make my server safer yet I'm hitting dead ends. I just don't see what the problem is. Talk about a slap in the face to someone trying to do the right thing. Edited January 19, 2009 by =BIA=BOOMSTICK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcE Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 As Duality stated, this is not up for debate. This is our rule as a privately run Anti-Cheat site. When you meet the requirements you can re-apply. /Closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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