wobblyboot Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 Hi there, read some pretty useful advice in this forum, maybe you can help me (I'm so confused) while I wait for my appeal. Heres link to my errant ban- http://www.pbbans.com/mbi-viewban-d2ddcac1-vb203858.html I've been playing BF2 since 2005 with a few years off it, I have NEVER changed my name or used an alias, i wouldnt know the first step to making an alias! I have never used hax and been pretty much PB clean cept for one ban for stats padding, which was weird cos thats ALL that clan did was stat pad on their server -hours of sitting in jets and wrenching upside-down boats on a PB server???... but thats by the by. (stats padding is BAD mmm'kay?) So on the 20th of jan some ARSEHAT going by the name of Myst|fyu uses a hack under MY CD Key (GUID). So... i try to work out how this has happened was my account hacked? No evidence of that that I could find. So maybe he just has same guid as me so i look up the MPI link - http://www.pbbans.com/mpi/results.php?srchtype=GUID&srchdata=b33904df8ee0af3e317f05afd2ddcac1&game_id=13&showLG=no&showAT=no&safeview=no and there is 63! different names listed under my guid. 1. Are all these guys using my CDKEY? 2.Is it possible for key generators to come up with MY CD Key by chance? 63 times? (I bought my copy of BF2 last year- brand new from electronics boutique, before then I only played on friends comps or at net cafe's) Anyway assuming the answer to those 2 questions is yes, I'm thinking I'm saved! all I have to do is prove that my IP address is different to the hacks. :) But... this is my actual IP address 58.174.8.48 and this my IP according to the PBBans - 119.225.96.* Also no IP address appears next to Myst|fyu's name so I cant tell. Theres no chance someone has used my comp, logged in and created an alias, i have my own room and was home at my comp at the time of the breach. 3. Why is the IP listed wrong? 4. would differing IP's be proof enough. 5. Would it help if I provided proof of purchase of my brand new sealed copy of BF2 to PB in my appeal? I would REALLY appreciate anyones help here, I'm innocent of using either an alias or a hack in BF2 EVER, so there has to be a way. A really good clan I just joined has had to ban me from their server or PB will withdraw their streaming shield, and many servers I play on kick or ban me now because I'm PB dirty. Meanwhile whoever Myst|fyu is -your the real criminal here and I hope they catch you. I'm willing to give PB access to my email and EA accounts even give them remote access to my comp- THERE HAS TO BE A WAY TO PROVE IT ISN'T ME!!! pls help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freaky10 Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 are you sure it was a brand new copy of the game and was brought last year? guid first seen by pbbans on Jan 29, 2007 at 10:08 pm. you also have another guid http://www.pbbans.com/mpi/results.php?srchtype=GUID&srchdata=f9ed19c3&game_id=13&showLG=yes&showAT=yes&safeview=yes dated 2009 used on the wobblyboot account, is that you as well? and is this your account http://www.bf2stats.net/player/39021206/ and http://bf2s.com/player/39021206/? both showing player inlisted in 2005? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugen Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 Nothing by PBBans can be done to help you. You will have to raise a ticket with EvenBalance who own the anti-cheat programme, Punkbuster. Only they will be able to unban you. That said I doubt they will, as it's your GUID and you are responsible for it. Gather as much evidence to show your innocence and present it to Evenbalance using their support ticket which can be found here Mugen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wobblyboot Posted January 29, 2011 Author Share Posted January 29, 2011 are you sure it was a brand new copy of the game and was brought last year? -Yes I can supply them with game ID and actual CD Key and proof of purchase. guid first seen by pbbans on Jan 29, 2007 at 10:08 pm. you also have another guid http://www.pbbans.com/mpi/results.php?srchtype=GUID&srchdata=f9ed19c3&game_id=13&showLG=yes&showAT=yes&safeview=yes dated 2009 used on the wobblyboot account, is that you as well? -"Battlefield 2 f9ed19c3 A match was found for your search query. Public access can not view clean players." thats all I see there, so dont know what your saying, if I have 2 guids, how can that happen? and is this your account http://www.bf2stats.net/player/39021206/-Now thats wierd, I started an acc in 2005, forgot the pass and just made another acc, in the same year, never played it again,but that acc was last played in 2009, so if thats it someones been playing it! Will take that up with EA. and http://bf2s.com/player/39021206/?- both showing player inlisted in 2005? link is broken but you probably mean http://bf2s.com/player/48189783/ which is my actual only account. I appreciate that you wanna earn some Kudos by showing me up as a hacker to the forums but you got the wrong end of the stick, however I'm grateful for the reply and pointing out to me that there is a still live account that someone has managed to access,I assumed it would be deleted as inactive, but if it turns out it was the one I started I'll have EA delete it, it was still rank private when I lost access to it now its gunnery sgt. Nothing by PBBans can be done to help you. You will have to raise a ticket with EvenBalance who own the anti-cheat programme, Punkbuster. Only they will be able to unban you. That said I doubt they will, as it's your GUID and you are responsible for it. Gather as much evidence to show your innocence and present it to Evenbalance using their support ticket which can be found here Mugen Yeah, I know, I could have made that clearer... first line should read>> "Hi there, read some pretty useful advice in this forum, maybe you can help me (I'm so confused) while I wait for my appeal result from Evenbalance." and "it's your GUID and you are responsible for it"" yes which is the question I'm basicly asking -"How the hell does someone else get my GUID let alone 63 people?"- no ones been anywhere near the BF2 gamecase. Again, I'm happy you replied but I'd be downright apoplectic with joy if someone can answer any of my actual questions or give me any advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freaky10 Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 not trying to prove your a hacker at all. you didnt include a game name in your post, so went on your forum name. to try to find out which of the 63 was you. didnt know the omo was part of the name, so just searched on the wobblyboot. found account so only asked the question. cant help with out the info. look in your ea account might(should) show every account you have created, ive used it regain access to a profile before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wobblyboot Posted January 29, 2011 Author Share Posted January 29, 2011 not trying to prove your a hacker at all. you didnt include a game name in your post, so went on your forum name. to try to find out which of the 63 was you. didnt know the omo was part of the name, so just searched on the wobblyboot. found account so only asked the question. cant help with out the info. look in your ea account might(should) show every account you have created, ive used it regain access to a profile before. cheers yeah I will and yep its [omo]wobblyboot thats been linked to the hack, its bizarre to think I'm the only legit owner of a CD key being used by 63 people, I guess that's my best evidence as i registered it with EA the same day I bought it. I wonder; if any of the other 63 registered thier game by that key then EA would have just said "Invalid Key" when I did? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freaky10 Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 if i search that name i get 5 guids its been used on, 1 thats banned, 3 clean with the same names on as the banned one and 1 thats your name only. your name only was first used on the 3 nov 10. and last used today. really silly question, where do you play? all the names are on all the guids, and the same ip address's as well. your not in a student dorm or anything like that are you? and why did you buy another copy of the game? do you still have the cdkey from that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benway Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 Bah, stop using silly name-searches, all it proves is, that betafield-nicks are not unique ... we ban GUIDs, in no shape or form nicknames, IPs, persons or anything. i can not reproduce how this ... Heres link to my errant ban- http://www.pbbans.com/mbi-viewban-d2ddcac1-vb203858.html ... could be you / your guid. From what i see this (8ebf0c79) is your guid. To make sure, please follow the instructions given here: http://www.pbbans.com/info-center-clientlog.html#setup 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wobblyboot Posted January 29, 2011 Author Share Posted January 29, 2011 if i search that name i get 5 guids its been used on, 1 thats banned, 3 clean with the same names on as the banned one and 1 thats your name only. your name only was first used on the 3 nov 10. and last used today. really silly question, where do you play? all the names are on all the guids, and the same ip address's as well. your not in a student dorm or anything like that are you? and why did you buy another copy of the game? do you still have the cdkey from that? From my original post- "(I bought my copy of BF2 last year- brand new from electronics boutique, before then I only played on friends comps or at net cafe's)' SO i GUESS THE ONE THATS MY NAME ONLY IS THE ONE THAT i'M USING NOW, AT HOME BY MYSELF and its clean you say?... SO WHY AM i STILL LINKED TO THE BANNED ONE? Its a really good find tho thankyou, shame I cldnt get back to you quicker but I was live chatting with EA to find some way to prove that my guid is clean and that CDkey is mine.(was like pulling teeth).. but what if thats not my current GUID anyway? But I realised (because I bought BF2 complete collection) that I hadnt registered the key for BF2 standard only BF2SF, when I tried to register the key for BF2 standard it said, :"product key is already in use" and EA only shows BF2SF as registered with my EA account.... IS THERE A WAY I CAN CHECK THAT THE cd KEY FOR MY GAME corresponds TO THE BANNED guid? oh sorry benway didnt see ur reply till I finished replying, I'll check it out now. Bah, stop using silly name-searches, all it proves is, that betafield-nicks are not unique ... we ban GUIDs, in no shape or form nicknames, IPs, persons or anything. i can not reproduce how this ... could be your guid. From what i see this is your guid. To make sure, please follow the instructions given here: http://www.pbbans.com/info-center-clientlog.html#setup Ok I get that your saying my guid is infact not the banned one, I guess I appear on the banned list because I've played from the same computer as Myst\fyu which is probably an internet cafe in Sydney, so if I'm asking anything of PB it should be to take me off those old guids that are pre -november 10th. So have I got this right- to test my guid I go into any PB managed server and type "PB Server assigned guid = <guid>" in the command line? ok i read instructions better lol.. i go back and look in config file Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benway Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 ... PB_MyGuid the result can be retrieved in the punkbuster-client log C:\Program Files\BattleField 2\pb\pbcl.log (WinXP) C:\Users\\AppData\Local\PunkBuster\BattleField 2\pb\pbcl.log (W7) [01.29.2011 20:25:23] pb_LogToFile = 1 (0=No, 1=Yes) [01.29.2011 20:25:23] pb_SsLog = 1 (0=No, 1=Yes) [01.29.2011 20:25:23] pb_SsSave = 1 (0=No, 1=Yes) [01.29.2011 20:25:23] PB_LOGMD5TOOL = 1 (0 to 1) [01.29.2011 20:25:23] Attempting to resolve master7.evenbalance.com [01.29.2011 20:25:23] Resolved to [216.240.146.139] (14) [01.29.2011 20:25:23] PunkBuster Client (v2.241 | A0) Enabled [01.29.2011 20:25:23] Game Version [1.5.3153-802.0] [01.29.2011 20:25:23] Connected to Server 192.168.178.27:16567 [01.29.2011 20:25:59] PB Services socket initialized [01.29.2011 20:26:02] WARNING: PB Kicks for Level 1 PB Restrictions on this Server [01.29.2011 20:26:02] PB Server assigned guid = 123456deadbeefdeadbeef9876543210 [01.29.2011 20:26:03] Receiving from PB Server (w v1.800 | A1392 C2.241) [01.29.2011 20:26:04] PnkBstrA successfully loaded PnkBstrB [01.29.2011 20:26:08] PnkBstrB service installed and started successfully [01.29.2011 20:26:43] GUID=123456deadbeefdeadbeef9876543210 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piggy Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 Wobbly, click edit post no need to make a new post everytime lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSMagnet Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 plus, when i/we/most people see lots of caps, we skip over/ignore it IPs can link unrelated GUIDs/players dynamic IPs are very common 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wobblyboot Posted January 29, 2011 Author Share Posted January 29, 2011 ok I really thought i had everything right I got the config file in the pb root folder but everytime I log into a server its just not creating a pbcl.log file... mebbe my anti virus being to good or something, I really value all the help I'm getting but I'm exhausted now lol, I will try again after some sleep but fact is 8ebf0c79 is my guid not b33904df8ee0af3e317f05afd2ddcac1 -that one is a guid from net cafe I played in years ago. But i need get that pbcl file working to prove it :) Thankyou all again for your help B) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Everson Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 Sorry I didn't respond to your PM earlier as I've not been at home, or anywhere near a PC, to look into it for you. However for stuff like this the forums are always best as you'll get responses quicker. - from my iPhone ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freaky10 Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 if your playing in an internet cafe, someone will always cheat linking a ban via name on it. you wont get it removed as that guid was used to cheat. i know it wasnt you, but someone did. best you can do is ignore it and carry on. or if your that worried, start another account and only play on your home pc. point the clan to this thread and see what they say about you joining. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wobblyboot Posted January 30, 2011 Author Share Posted January 30, 2011 (edited) OK I finally did it! Amazing how easy things are when my brains working-- So my guid is clean, i guess i just add this to my EB ticket and ask em real nice if they'd take my name off the list that's under the banned guid. Edited January 30, 2011 by Benway 32 guid JPG removed for security/privacy reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benway Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 careful with clean 32-GUIDs, these could be abused and this is a public forum section (Hello Google) That is all what we have logged for this guid, <?xml version="1.0" encoding="ISO-8859-1"?> <PBBansMPI> <SearchType>GUID</SearchType> <SearchData>8ebf0c79</SearchData> <Game>Battlefield 2</Game> <AliasData> <Alias>[omo]wobblyboot</Alias> <FirstSeen>Nov 25, 2010 at 7:58 am</FirstSeen> <AliasIP>121.208.*.55</AliasIP> </AliasData> <AliasData> <Alias>NUNYA! [omo]wobblyboot</Alias> <FirstSeen>Jan 28, 2011 at 7:45 am</FirstSeen> <AliasIP>58.174.*.48</AliasIP> </AliasData> <UserIPData> <UserIP>58.174.*.48</UserIP> <FirstSeen>Nov 29, 2010</FirstSeen> <LastSeen>Jan 29, 2011</LastSeen> <Country>Australia</Country> </UserIPData> <UserIPData> <UserIP>121.208.*.55</UserIP> <FirstSeen>Nov 03, 2010</FirstSeen> <LastSeen>Nov 25, 2010</LastSeen> <Country>Australia</Country> </UserIPData> <OnMBI>no</OnMBI> </PBBansMPI> ... nothing of note. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wobblyboot Posted January 31, 2011 Author Share Posted January 31, 2011 What a nice surprise in my email inbox I woke up to this morning! "I've examined the thread at PBBans and you look good....Keep your nose clean, and welcome back!" -clan admin. So there is justice even in the cyberworld lol. Thankyou all who assisted me here and a special thanks to Benway the time you spent answering my questions cleared my name and taught me a LOT about what to do/not do in regards to Punkbuster. So word of advice to people out there- dont play at net cafes, it only takes one person to hack on the same comp/server and your tag can be linked to them and PB searches will come up with you as dirty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wobblyboot Posted February 4, 2011 Author Share Posted February 4, 2011 (edited) OK just one more thing for complete closure for me :) .and again I thank you all for the help but- I asked even balance to simply remove my TAG from the aliases associated with the banned guid but they say its down to you guys- refer ticket link My link So how do I get my name ([omo]wobblyboot) off the banned guid alias list? this is the page here - PBBans MBi Again this is not my current guid, which is clean, but one from a Netcafe in sydney I played at a couple of times years ago. Edited February 4, 2011 by wobblyboot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSMagnet Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 (edited) short answer? you don't the data will not be manipulated in any way for valid violations *edit* btw the link you provided for the EB TT is invalid Edited February 4, 2011 by HSMagnet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buff Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Try to understand, but we will never alter our MPi information for any reason no matter what it is, if we did alter anything it would leave us open to accusations of falsifying MPI information thus damaging PBBans integrity. Integrity is something we take quite seriously and will never allow anything to bring it into question. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benway Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 So how do I get my name ([omo]wobblyboot) off the banned guid alias list? it is not your name. Proof: someone else used it. Pretty simple, isnt it? Sorry, but i already gave up hope average betafield-noob might finally figure what a guid is, as they keep on coming up with figments of imagination, like "account"s where none are. But i was supporting to entirely remove name-search from MPi to cut down continuing misuse/abuse. Bottomline there is nothing like a unique Nick, and we will not manipulate reality to heal PeeWee's world when it's broken. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wobblyboot Posted February 4, 2011 Author Share Posted February 4, 2011 "btw the link you provided for the EB TT is invalid " -ah thats because they closed the ticket. Well I think this is unfair and could pose a real problem especially with the newer BF versions that are coming out. If someone has just once played at an internet cafe that subsequently gets used by a hacker then they are seen as PB dirty. If person A plays on Freind 1's comp and freind 1 sells the game to someone who hacks and gets a global ban, then they are seen as PB dirty. If you like to play on different servers you'll suddenly find yourself banned with no recourse. For me its OK I'm in a clan and only play on their server and I've shown them that even though I'm on alias list for a hacking guid my current guid is clean and I'm not associated with the 63+ ppl who happened to have played BF2 at that netcafe. Is there anyone that can look at this problem, is there any chance of "manipulating" these alias lists for proven clean players? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Everson Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 We will not manipulate MPi data in any way shape or form, for any reason. No exceptions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wobblyboot Posted February 4, 2011 Author Share Posted February 4, 2011 (edited) it is not your name. Proof: someone else used it. Pretty simple, isnt it? Sorry, but i already gave up hope average betafield-noob might finally figure what a guid is, as they keep on coming up with figments of imagination, like "account"s where none are. But i was supporting to entirely remove name-search from MPi to cut down continuing misuse/abuse. Bottomline there is nothing like a unique Nick, and we will not manipulate reality to heal PeeWee's world when it's broken. Forgive a dumb beta-field noob for asking but I assumed that I used that guid to log on to BF2 at a netcafe and thats how I ended up on the alias list, not that someone else used my name. Am i wrong then in thinking that, has someone actually used my tag to play? Are ALL the tags on that alias list guilty of hacking, or have they just had the misfortune to use that guid? GUID is the actual product key of the actual copy of the game yes? PS: I just read the translation of benways link to the german chap confusing accounts with guids, I see that BF2 server admins doing a name search are foolish to assume that finding a name in an alias list means they are also hacks as the names are not secure in BF2. Thanks for that, I feel this is something PB should make VERY VERY clear to their clients which would put an end to many players problem. In fact I support benways proposal to do away with the MPi alias list ALTOGETHER as it actually means nothing. Edited February 4, 2011 by wobblyboot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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