PBBans is not working for BF4 Official Servers

10.2k · November 21, 2013

Due to DICE / EA disabling PB kick and ban functions in Battlefield 4 for servers running in official mode, PBBans will not support or function. Other modes such as Ranked, Unranked and Private work as they always have in the past and we advise streaming admins to not use official mode if they wish to protect their servers with PBBans.

When issuing a kick or ban command the PB logs will show a player is kicked / banned but nothing happens to them on the server. The same goes for players listed on the pbbans.dat banlist when they join.

This effectively makes PBBans and other AC communities unable to enforce bans making official servers more cheater friendly. The only thing that streaming official servers will give is banned players data for servers not running in official mode.

November 22, 2013

Not that it's any consolation, but someone raising a violation will still carry a ban here right? Even if the kick fails, the log will be intact to stream.

10.2k · November 22, 2013

Yes

3.6k · November 22, 2013

Lets say I raise a cheat violation on an official server, will I even be kicked off of the server?

I'm not talking by PBBans, I'm talking through punkbuster itself. PB Detects a hack, and attempts to kick me, does it happen?

26.3k · November 22, 2013

Lets say I raise a cheat violation on an official server, will I even be kicked off of the server?

I'm not talking by PBBans, I'm talking through punkbuster itself. PB Detects a hack, and attempts to kick me, does it happen?

MaydaX, on 16 Nov 2013 - 11:30 PM, said:

PB itself would be able to kick any caught cheaters but admins will not.

26.3k · November 22, 2013

I wonder if EA are going for the hat trick :scratchchin:

http://consumerist.com/2013/04/09/ea-makes-worst-company-in-america-history-wins-title-for-second-year-in-a-row/

November 22, 2013

I wonder if EA are going for the hat trick :scratchchin:

http://consumerist.com/2013/04/09/ea-makes-worst-company-in-america-history-wins-title-for-second-year-in-a-row/

Only wondering?

10.2k · November 22, 2013



(Player is banned on another server)

[11.22.2013 00:13:45] ->PBSV: PB UCON "pbbhub2-1"@xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:uport [admin.say " Player ABannedPlayer (xxxxxxxx) banned for GAMEHACK)" all]


(9 hours later connects to this server and PBBans sends a kick command to enforce the prior ban)

[11.22.2013 09:12:39] ->PBSV: New Connection (slot #54) xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:3659 [?] "ABannedPlayer" (seq 6437037)

[11.22.2013 09:12:39] ->PBSV: Player GUID Computed xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx(-) (slot #54) xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:3659 ABannedPlayer

[11.22.2013 09:12:39] ->PBSV: PB UCON "pbbhub2-1"@69.65.22.152:uport [admin.say " Enforced prior ban for 'ABannedPlayer' (xxxxxxxx)" all]

[11.22.2013 09:12:45] ->PBSV: Kick Command Issued (PBBans.com enforced a MBi Ban for the GUID xxxxxxxx. [Admin Decision]) for (slot#54) xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:3659 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ABannedPlayer


(Cheater is still on the server and was not kicked as shown by pb_sv_plist.)

[11.22.2013 09:12:48] ->PBSV: 54 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx(-) xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:3659 OK   1 10.0 0 (V) "ABannedPlayer"

[11.22.2013 09:12:51] ->PBSV: 54 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx(-) xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:3659 OK   1 10.0 0 (V) "ABannedPlayer"


(Player is caught again by PunkBuster and is kicked from the server)

[11.22.2013 09:12:59] ->PBSV: Kick Command Issued (Prior Kick/Ban) for (slot#54) xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:3659 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ABannedPlayer

[11.22.2013 09:13:03] ->PBSV: VIOLATION (GAMEHACK) : ABannedPlayer (slot #54) Violation (GAMEHACK)  [xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx(-) xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:3659]

[11.22.2013 09:13:03] ->PBSV: PB UCON "pbbhub2-1"@xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:uport [pb_sv_kickguid "xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" 1200 "PBBans.com has banned ABannedPlayer for GAMEHACK"]

[11.22.2013 09:13:07] ->PBSV: Lost Connection (slot #54) xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:3659 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx(-) ABannedPlayer


(Cheater reconnects and PBBans sends the kick command again.)

[11.22.2013 09:14:05] ->PBSV: New Connection (slot #58) xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:3659 [?] "ABannedPlayer" (seq 905955)

[11.22.2013 09:14:05] ->PBSV: Player GUID Computed xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx(-) (slot #58) xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:3659 ABannedPlayer

[11.22.2013 09:14:05] ->PBSV: PB UCON "pbbhub2-1"@xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:uport [admin.say " Enforced prior ban for 'ABannedPlayer' (xxxxxxxx)" all]

[11.22.2013 09:14:10] ->PBSV: Kick Command Issued (PBBans.com enforced a MBi Ban for the GUID xxxxxxxx. [Admin Decision]) for (slot#58) xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:3659 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ABannedPlayer


(Again the cheater is still on the server and was not kicked as shown by pb_sv_plist.)

[11.22.2013 09:14:11] ->PBSV: 58 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx(-) xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:3659 OK   1 0.0 0 (V) "ABannedPlayer"

[11.22.2013 09:14:20] ->PBSV: 58 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx(-) xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:3659 OK   1 5.0 0 (V) "ABannedPlayer"


(Cheater is caught again and is then removed from the server.)

[11.22.2013 09:14:43] ->PBSV: VIOLATION (GAMEHACK) : ABannedPlayer (slot #58) Violation (GAMEHACK)  [xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx(-) xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:3659]

[11.22.2013 09:14:43] ->PBSV: PB UCON "pbbhub2-1"@xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:uport [pb_sv_kickguid "xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" 1200 "PBBans.com has banned ABannedPlayer for GAMEHACK"]

[11.22.2013 09:14:46] ->PBSV: Kick Command Issued (Violation (GAMEHACK) for (slot#58) xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:3659 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ABannedPlayer

[11.22.2013 09:14:47] ->PBSV: Lost Connection (slot #58) xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:3659 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx(-) ABannedPlayer

November 22, 2013

(Player is banned on another server)
[11.22.2013 00:13:45] ->PBSV: PB UCON "pbbhub2-1"@*xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:uport [admin.say "<PBBans.com> Player ABannedPlayer (xxxxxxxx) banned for GAMEHACK" all]

(9 hours later connects to this server and PBBans sends a kick command to enforce the prior ban)
[11.22.2013 09:12:39] ->PBSV: New Connection (slot #54) xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:3659 [?] "ABannedPlayer" (seq 643703)
[11.22.2013 09:12:39] ->PBSV: Player GUID Computed xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx(-) (slot #54) xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:3659 ABannedPlayer
[11.22.2013 09:12:39] ->PBSV: PB UCON "pbbhub2-1"@xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:uport [admin.say "<PBBans.com> Enforced prior ban for 'ABannedPlayer' (xxxxxxxx)" all]
[11.22.2013 09:12:45] ->PBSV: Kick Command Issued (PBBans.com enforced a MBi Ban for the GUID xxxxxxxx. [Admin Decision]) for (slot#54) xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:3659 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ABannedPlayer

(Cheater is still on the server and was not kicked as shown by pb_sv_plist.)
[11.22.2013 09:12:48] ->PBSV: 54 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx(-) xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:3659 OK   1 10.0 0 (V) "ABannedPlayer"
[11.22.2013 09:12:51] ->PBSV: 54 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx(-) xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:3659 OK   1 10.0 0 (V) "ABannedPlayer"

(Player is caught again by PunkBuster and is kicked from the server)
[11.22.2013 09:12:59] ->PBSV: Kick Command Issued (Prior Kick/Ban) for (slot#54) xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:3659 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ABannedPlayer
[11.22.2013 09:13:03] ->PBSV: VIOLATION (GAMEHACK) : ABannedPlayer (slot #54) Violation (GAMEHACK)  [xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx(-) xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:3659]
[11.22.2013 09:13:03] ->PBSV: PB UCON "pbbhub2-1"@xxx.xxx.xxx.xx:uport [pb_sv_kickguid "xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" 1200 "PBBans.com has banned ABannedPlayer for GAMEHACK"]
[11.22.2013 09:13:07] ->PBSV: Lost Connection (slot #54) xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:3659 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx(-) ABannedPlayer

(Cheater reconnects and PBBans sends the kick command again.)
[11.22.2013 09:14:05] ->PBSV: New Connection (slot #58) xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:3659 [?] "ABannedPlayer" (seq 9059551)
[11.22.2013 09:14:05] ->PBSV: Player GUID Computed xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx(-) (slot #58) xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:3659 ABannedPlayer
[11.22.2013 09:14:05] ->PBSV: PB UCON "pbbhub2-1"@xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:uport [admin.say "<PBBans.com> Enforced prior ban for 'ABannedPlayer' (xxxxxxxx)" all]
[11.22.2013 09:14:10] ->PBSV: Kick Command Issued (PBBans.com enforced a MBi Ban for the GUID xxxxxxxx. [Admin Decision]) for (slot#58) xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:3659 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ABannedPlayer

(Again the cheater is still on the server and was not kicked as shown by pb_sv_plist.)
[11.22.2013 09:14:11] ->PBSV: 58 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx(-) xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:3659 OK   1 0.0 0 (V) "ABannedPlayer"
[11.22.2013 09:14:20] ->PBSV: 58 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx(-) xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:3659 OK   1 5.0 0 (V) "ABannedPlayer"

(Cheater is caught again and is then removed from the server.)
[11.22.2013 09:14:43] ->PBSV: VIOLATION (GAMEHACK) : ABannedPlayer (slot #58) Violation (GAMEHACK) [xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx(-) xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:3659]
[11.22.2013 09:14:43] ->PBSV: PB UCON "pbbhub2-1"@xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:uport [pb_sv_kickguid "xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" 1200 "PBBans.com has banned ABannedPlayer for GAMEHACK"]
[11.22.2013 09:14:46] ->PBSV: Kick Command Issued (Violation (GAMEHACK)  for (slot#58) xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:3659 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ABannedPlayer
[11.22.2013 09:14:47] ->PBSV: Lost Connection (slot #58) xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:3659 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx(-) ABannedPlayer

How does the server differentiate between a pb_sv_kick issued from the hub and PB running on the server?

or they on an alias or slot #, from your sample flow it looks like the hub goes by an alias and PB goes by a slot number, Before we all throw our hands up can a little more testing be done.

10.2k · November 22, 2013

How does the server differentiate between a pb_sv_kick issued from the hub and PB running on the server?

or they on an alias or slot #, from your sample flow it looks like the hub goes by an alias and PB goes by a slot number, Before we all throw our hands up can a little more testing be done.

we use admin commands to kick players. PB itself uses the kick function directly. I'm not sure what they are doing to prevent it from working on only admin issued commands

10.2k · July 19, 2014

http://www.pbbans.com/forums/pbbans-is-not-working-for-battlefield-4-official-servers-t178514.html

October 25, 2014

If I'm Admin on my server, I can give enforce the prior ban?

June 11, 2015

Can i just clarify PBBans does not work on official but will still log the kick/ban attemps

10.2k · June 11, 2015

Yes

June 11, 2015

Thanks Maydax

July 10, 2015

MaydaX...

yesterday we banned a player with an Official Server (BF4) any new infos?

http://www.pbbans.com/mbi-viewban-9cef8929-vb394994.html

Enforced Flags runs good and kicked the Player on a Official Server.

Greetings

Para :party0049:

14.1k · July 10, 2015

http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4/servers/show/pc/7888d892-a93a-432a-bc55-41819942a0c5/BGW-Gaming-3-4-Rush-Vanilla-Maps-100-Ticket-s-32P/ ?

i don't play, where does it say official?

July 10, 2015

http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4/servers/show/pc/7888d892-a93a-432a-bc55-41819942a0c5/BGW-Gaming-3-4-Rush-Vanilla-Maps-100-Ticket-s-32P/ ?

i don't play, where does it say official?

Yes! This Server runs Official and here is the PB.log

[07.10.2015 00:53:36] VIOLATION (GAMEHACK) #81591: Wurmalex (slot #30) Violation (GAMEHACK) #81591 [973a36192e0e15b2eed7feee9cef8929(-) 2.244.56.82:3659]

He was Banned

http://www.pbbans.com/mbi-viewban-9cef8929-vb394994.html

Greetings

Para :bigthink:

Edited July 10, 2015 by ParaEXE

14.1k · July 10, 2015

how do i tell from the battlelog page, that the server is official?

3.8k · July 10, 2015

how do i tell from the battlelog page, that the server is official?

Seems rather clear :P

July 10, 2015

look on Type = Official

...not Ranked

Thanks Pisi :-)

Edited July 10, 2015 by ParaEXE

14.1k · July 10, 2015

not if you are an I D 1 0 T :brownbag:

10.2k · July 11, 2015

If the player was caught by PB they get kicked but the issue is from when UCON sends a kick command (admin kick) to enforce a ban which is ignored.

Example from that server

[07.10.2015 08:31:40] ->PBSV: Player GUID Computed 70cbee68ac3c48b08dcea0dee10fa0ce(-) (slot #15) 93.221.154.220:3659 Bro0da
[07.10.2015 08:31:40] ->PBSV: PB UCON "pbbhub3-3"@66.55.152.*:* [pb_sv_kickguid 70cbee68ac3c48b08dcea0dee10fa0ce 1200 "PBBans.com enforced a MBi Ban for the GUID e10fa0ce."]
[07.10.2015 08:31:40] ->PBSV: PB UCON "pbbhub3-3"@66.55.152.*:* [admin.say "<PBBans.com> Enforced prior ban for 'Bro0da' (e10fa0ce)" all]
[07.10.2015 08:31:44] ->PBSV: Kick Command Issued (PBBans.com enforced a MBi Ban for the GUID e10fa0ce. [Admin Decision]) for (slot#15) 93.221.154.220:3659 70cbee68ac3c48b08dcea0dee10fa0ce Bro0da

[07.10.2015 08:31:50] ->PBSV: 15 70cbee68ac3c48b08dcea0dee10fa0ce(-) 93.221.154.220:3659 OK   1 0.0 0 (V) "Bro0da"
[07.10.2015 08:33:21] ->PBSV: 15 70cbee68ac3c48b08dcea0dee10fa0ce(-) 93.221.154.220:3659 OK   1 3.1 0 (V) "Bro0da"

[07.10.2015 08:34:26] ->PBSV: Lost Connection (slot #15) 93.221.154.220:3659 70cbee68ac3c48b08dcea0dee10fa0ce(-) Bro0da

Cheater joined, the hub sent a kick command to enforce a prior ban but pb_sv_plist shows he/she is still on the server. They left on their own 3 minutes after the kick command was sent.

So as I've said in the past, official servers support cheaters.

July 11, 2015

Hi!

Ok Thanks @ all.

Greetings

Para

July 13, 2015

next ban on Official Server

http://www.pbbans.com/mbi-viewban-b150a936-vb395217.html

:bigthink:

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