No_Nickname Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 I'm trying to appeal a ban that I got off a BF4 server and the frustration is kicking in because they are basing it on cheat analyzers and a VAC ban on a game that I have never played on. I know this is pbbans but is there any way to prove that the VAC ban isn't mine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VAPOR33 Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 1. What is your steam id? 2. In short no there is no way to prove the vac ban is not yours. If it's assigned to your steam id....you or someone on your account got the ban. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaydaX Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 Considering there is no link between steam and origin so there is no solid way to link them. Plus VAC ban status is based on a steam account and doesn't tell you what game it's for. Not sure what cheat analyzer is being used but I think it needs some work by the sound of it. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cappy1892 Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 When you say the Vac ban isnt yours, do you mean the account they are referring to is not yours, or do you mean someone else got the vac ban on your account? If the account{with the vac ban} is not yours it would be pretty easy, id have thought ,to give them your steam profile showing you have no ban. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Nickname Posted April 5, 2015 Author Share Posted April 5, 2015 (edited) This is my steam account: http://steamcommunity.com/id/no_nickname/ This is the ban appeal in question: http://www.violentindustries.com/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?19253.0 They are trying to say that they have a definitive link that I was hacking due to this VAC ban which was I assume was for counterstrike since it was the only game listed in the profile. I also have never played the original counterstrike, only source and Global offensive. Edited April 5, 2015 by No_Nickname Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wirefire2 Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 (edited) We can ban you for any reason we want. You don't like it, that's just too bad. Edited April 5, 2015 by wirefire2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Nickname Posted April 6, 2015 Author Share Posted April 6, 2015 (edited) You banned me not only on your server but on metabans as well for "hacking" which isn't true. When I counter your supposed proof with facts, you deny them while some of your other admins troll my ban appeal. If anyone else has an input, please add it otherwise pbbans staff can close it if they think it's going to turn into drama. Edited April 6, 2015 by No_Nickname Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dugandjo Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 (edited) Not my server, so not my decision. But I will say: There is ZERO link to the steam ID, no idea why it's even mentioned. The stats site used is questionable at best, KD is the only red flag at 247fairplay, which on a rank 11 account from an experienced BFBC2 player may be possible. unfair ban IMO. EDIT: Typo Edited April 6, 2015 by dugandjo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Slayer- Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 (edited) So from what I can make of this they banned you because of a STEAM name of Rent-A-Skillz with a VAC Ban, then they banned you in BF4 based on that name and a KD/R of 5.93 from BF3.| steamname: Rent-A-Skillz| steam3ID: [u:1:21121224]| steamID32: STEAM_0:0:10560612| steamID64: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197981386952| customURL:| steamrep: http://steamrep.com/profiles/76561197981386952Bit of a stretch to base a Battlefield 3 4 ban on name alone from a STEAM VAC Ban without backing it up with an IP from the STEAM account, then banning it in BF4 for a KD/R of 5.93 KD/R from BF3 alone and nothing else to back it up.N0_Nicknamehttp://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/soldier/N0_Nickname/stats/282733166/pc/http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4/soldier/N0_Nickname/stats/282733166/pc/Rent-A-Skillzhttp://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/soldier/Rent-A-Skillz/stats/1056693090/pc/ =============================================== BF4 http://metabans.com/player?i=u0sE Aliases 61% N0_Nickname last seen 113 days ago 18% APEX-No_Nickname last seen 19 days ago 13% CARBON-Nickname last seen 85 days ago 5% xCRBxNO_NICKNAME last seen 104 days ago 3% HELIX-NoNickname last seen 23 hours ago Bans Violent_Industries from 1 Jan, 2015 until 19 Dec, 2064 Status Banned Reason CARBON-Nickname - Hacking/Cheating - Impossible Stats (wirefire2-Vi) Expiration about 50 years 19 Dec, 2064 11:43 Comments. Impossible stats were found on a PBBans linked BF3 account "Rent-A-Skillz" Violent_Industries 95 days ago =============================================== BF3 http://metabans.com/player?i=gINB Aliases 80% N0_Nickname last seen over a year ago 20% Rent-A-Skillz last seen over a year ago =============================================== Though to take it to Metabans with the word phrase of Hacking/Cheating over a KD/R of 5.93 means it rolls out to their followers. :( Though like already stated No_Nickname it's their server and they pay for it and they can ban who they want at the end of the day. edit: typo BF4 ban not 3 Edited April 6, 2015 by -Slayer- 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSMagnet Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 We can ban you for any reason we want. You don't like it, that's just too bad. locally if you add them to 3rd party ban-lists without proof. you are wrong. which is why we only ban by streamed evidence ... the steam id presented as proof is bogus. no way to connect to OP 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freaky10 Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 so its a ban based on a name that was banned nearly 9years ago? no linked ips or stats etc to the steam account? and to think I moan at some of my members for bans on flimsy evidence. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pipes1 Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 In my opinion, to ban based on a similar name is wrong. Not to mention as started there is no way to link a steam account to an origin account solely on the name. Any clan/gild/ or group that follows a ban happy group on metabans is in there own way ill informed. The best way/only way to weed out the good from the impossible is pbss or a valid pb violation. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Nickname Posted April 7, 2015 Author Share Posted April 7, 2015 When I was an Senior admin for [FUB] during my BF2/BF3 days, I made damn sure that I was professional and kept an open mind in the rare case that I was wrong. That meant making sure that I had evidence to back up my bans be it video or pbbans.I learned this from some of the very best admins [FUB] had to offer and I still to this day have a lot of respect for them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBassie Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 We can ban you for any reason we want. You don't like it, that's just too bad. Sure you can ban any one you don't like, but with this flimsy 'evidence' you should not have added the ban to Metabans. It's just wrong and it shows your bad adminship. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfy Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 This topic simply annoys me. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Nickname Posted April 7, 2015 Author Share Posted April 7, 2015 This topic simply annoys me. My apologies if I'm the reason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Slayer- Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 This topic simply annoys me. My apologies if I'm the reason No it's not you No_Nickname, if I'm reading between the words of surfy's post she is possibly saying she is pissed off at the reasoning for the ban in the first place and to take it to a third party ban system like Metabans and mark it as hacking/cheating so it maximises the bans affect is sad, oops that last part was me. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfy Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 No it's not you No_Nickname, if I'm reading between the words of surfy's post she is possibly saying she is pissed off at the reasoning for the ban in the first place and to take it to a third party ban system like Metabans and mark it as hacking/cheating so it maximises the bans affect is sad, oops that last part was me. This! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Nickname Posted April 8, 2015 Author Share Posted April 8, 2015 Ah, gotcha. The sad thing is he posted the same thing at BF4DB but hopefully they'll play it smart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSMagnet Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 too bad someone doesn't remove obvious abuse bans from some of these places. local bans are one thing, adding bogus bans to 3rd party lists is criminal 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfy Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 I was added to metabans by someone once, which was kind of annoying since I haven't actually played properly for ages! When I did play I didn't join any servers but my own clans and if I'm brutally honest.. I was crap! :fryingpan: Ah, gotcha. The sad thing is he posted the same thing at BF4DB but hopefully they'll play it smart. To the clan that are adding these bans elsewhere, just be glad if it never happens to you. Wouldn't be so fun on the receiving end. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VAPOR33 Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 ^ +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cappy1892 Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 To the clan that are adding these bans elsewhere, just be glad if it never happens to you. Aint that the truth. to be replied with " we can ban who we want, dont like it, deal with it" makes me question the integrity of the banning clan. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dugandjo Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 (edited) local bans are one thing, adding bogus bans to 3rd party lists is criminal Good karma would be metabans and pbbans disabling their account for bad adminship and let them fend for themselves for a while, maybe I'm harsh, but anyway. Edited April 10, 2015 by dugandjo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pipes1 Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Good karma would be metabans and pbbans disabling their account for bad adminship and let them fend for themselves for a while, maybe I'm harsh, but anyway. only issue with that is how would you justify it so its fair for everyone. whats not to say thos was to happen again and then later find that the player gets banned for a pb violation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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