RodeoBob Posted April 11, 2004 Author Share Posted April 11, 2004 Yes, your server is sending the logs. At present, we are only using the Repository in a testing phase (i.e., stability of the system and bandwith usage) and we haven't opened the logs or begun to scan them for violations. After the next version of the MPI is released, CJ will begin focusing on how best to utilize the logs. So, in the meantime please continue to post your cheats on the forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodeoBob Posted April 11, 2004 Author Share Posted April 11, 2004 I need your help in identifying the servers listed below. Here is a list of servers that we currently have submitting to the Repository: Server IP/Port_Clan Tag_Clan Name_Server Admin_Game_Status 63.171.136.15:20100_{VOD}_Valley of Death_{VOD}RodeoBob_SoF2_Active 63.171.136.18:20100_rFg_WarMonkey_SoF2_Active 63.171.136.18:20200_rFg_WarMonkey_SoF2_Inactive 63.171.136.25:20100 63.171.136.25:20101 63.171.136.25:20104 63.171.136.25:20105 63.171.136.25:20110 63.171.136.26:20100 63.171.136.26:20101 64.37.120.195:27960 66.246.72.61:20101_PBBans_SirRobHiFi_SoF2_Active 66.98.188.152:20100 66.98.204.214:20100 69.12.85.83:20104_-=E=-_Static_SoF2_Active 69.31.6.30:27960_-7-_Slappy_ET_Active 69.44.156.145:20101 69.44.156.145:20102 69.44.156.145:20103 69.44.156.145:20104 69.44.156.145:20105 82.136.22.101:27960_[boD]_et@Cymru_[boD`Ben]_ET_Active 195.149.21.146:27960_[EE]_Elite Executioners_S}{IT_S}{OT_ET_Active 195.149.21.152:27961 195.149.21.56:22111_|sF_Semper_Fi_Johnny|sF_Active 216.67.230.155:20100 - SirRobHiFi's old server... now defunkt At the same time, I would really like to invite as many of you as possible to help us out in the testing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[BoD]Benbo Posted April 11, 2004 Share Posted April 11, 2004 82.136.22.101:27960_[boD]_et@Cymru_[boD`Ben]_ET_Active Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny|sF Posted April 12, 2004 Share Posted April 12, 2004 195.149.21.56/22111_|sF_Semper_Fi_Johnny|sF_Active Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[EE]S}{IT_S}{OT Posted April 12, 2004 Share Posted April 12, 2004 195.149.21.146:27960_[EE]_Elite Executioners_S}{IT_S}{OT_ET_Active Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stymie Posted April 12, 2004 Share Posted April 12, 2004 63.171.136.18:20100 is mine 63.171.136.18:20200 is NO more ... became my bfv server Peace, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-7-Slappy Posted April 12, 2004 Share Posted April 12, 2004 69.31.6.30:27960 "Team -7- ET Pro" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaPaBeAr Posted May 17, 2004 Share Posted May 17, 2004 how can 2 players have the same Guid . :roll: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrnknPimp Posted June 2, 2004 Share Posted June 2, 2004 Do you still need or want testers to stream their logfiles to the repository? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodeoBob Posted June 2, 2004 Author Share Posted June 2, 2004 As this will be the preferred way when the PBBans system goes live, yes, it would be nice to go ahead and start using the repository system. Although, keep in mind.....until the system goes live....you may continue to post your cheats in the forums. Once the system is up....all logs in the repository will be added and dupes from the same server/time will be over looked. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
:MB:Volfin Posted June 3, 2004 Share Posted June 3, 2004 I have a technical question, how are these files streamed? Is it using FTP, UDP, HTTP, what? Is is a persistent connection, or just connects whenever there is data to be sent? Inquiring minds want to know! :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodeoBob Posted June 3, 2004 Author Share Posted June 3, 2004 I am fairly certain it is ftp (CJ can prolly help clarify) and it isn't a steady stream.....it reserves a certain amount and sends it similar to sending packets....a little at a time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
{DioCheeZ}RevBubba Posted June 17, 2004 Share Posted June 17, 2004 I finally got the Fragoholics Network servers running on the repository system just now - sorry for the delay. There should be 3 servers sending logs now. Let me know if there are any probs. Thanks for this great service!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobraderra [-TOC-] Posted June 17, 2004 Share Posted June 17, 2004 I will sort out the required information when I get back home. [-TOC-] is in on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stosh -X- Posted June 20, 2004 Share Posted June 20, 2004 ....we are trying to get a unique username and password for each server admin to use. That way he can only view his own logs. So what's the point of this? Just to view our own logs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwarden Posted June 21, 2004 Share Posted June 21, 2004 the repository which was used in early versions was pure syslog system... what is used now i dont follow ... anyway check this pb_rcon set password mynewpassword if this line is streamed to repository then i suggest You call for repository streaming update, anyline which contain *passw* should be removed and not streamed ... same goes about optimizing what is streamed to repository server and what not ... let say i run each 3 minutes 22 pb_Sv_file and each 30 minutes 250 md5tool checksums not to mention each 5 minutes 10 pb_sv_task ... you sure can imagine that traffic ... i'm for beta testing this if these main issues are resolved ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodeoBob Posted June 21, 2004 Author Share Posted June 21, 2004 In trying to answer your questions clearly, I will provide you with some personal experience with the streaming. {VOD} servers have been using the repository server for many months now. We have noticed no changes to our server as far as lag is concerned. I also run the MD5Tool and the var logs. Out of all of the server admin who have tested this....only 1% of them have stated they have had any stress on their servers. After looking at their configurations and making some adjustments everything returned to normal. I can assure you that by you using the repository that you will either have 0 effects or very minimal (and those can be sorted by some adjustments). I can't see a reason to be doing 250 md5tool checksums in 30 mins. It is very likely that maybe some assistance in the way your server is setup will help you in not having to perform so many tasks (sounds like your doing more tasks than playing). Now to the tricky one....the pb_rcon set password. I have not seen any adm cmds in the streamed logs (they are normal in your qconsole.log). I remotely run rcon cmds all of the time on my server and those have yet to show up in the streaming pb server logs (again normally things of this nature are in the qconsole.log). So, to help you and I and the rest of PBBans to understand, I have e-mailed the folks at EvenBalance to request their input on this. As to your comment "the repository which was used in early versions...." You sound as if you tested it before? .... or tried to "decipher" the program. Can you help clear that one up? Lastly, everyone is curious about the safety of the logs stored in the repository. ATM, only 4 individuals have access to those logs (me, CJ, SirRob, and Hoot). CJ is the site programmer/architecht/GOD, SirRob is a site admin and the bans manager, I (well I am just me), and lastly Hoot owns the server that PBBans is hosted on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stosh -X- Posted June 22, 2004 Share Posted June 22, 2004 I'm not worried about access or lag, I just want to know what the heck it does. What's the purpose of the repository? What's the goal, besides the obvious answer of getting rid of cheaters. Is it just a warehouse for server logs? What's being done with them? If only you can have access to your own logs, couldn't you just get them off the server directly? I'm missing the big picture here guys, someone clue me in please. :? :? :? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MA-Chick{EFK} Posted June 22, 2004 Share Posted June 22, 2004 Nothing against anyone...but I'm not comfortable with this. I personally won't be using it anytime soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirRobHiFi Posted June 22, 2004 Share Posted June 22, 2004 I'm not worried about access or lag, I just want to know what the heck it does. What's the purpose of the repository? What's the goal, besides the obvious answer of getting rid of cheaters. Is it just a warehouse for server logs? What's being done with them? If only you can have access to your own logs, couldn't you just get them off the server directly? I'm missing the big picture here guys, someone clue me in please. :? :? :? The pb logs record people joining the server and their connect info as well as people kicked by PB, cvar values for the players (assuming you have cvar logging enabled), md5 checksums etc for pbss's taken and so on. They DO NOT record rcon passwords or even anything accidently typed into the console. Look at one of your pb logs for yourself. Why use a repository? One good reason is to save us admins the work of submitting the PB kicks from the sv_cheat.log but far more importantly it a backup and duplicate of the original on the server. In the case of disputes we can deal with them directly because the members cannot falsify a PB kick from their logs if it's not also in our copy. Without the repository it is possible an admin could frame someone but this removes that doubt. The part about being able to view your logs as web pages is just a bonus feature, all of us have access to a web browser in more locations than an ftp client. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirRobHiFi Posted June 22, 2004 Share Posted June 22, 2004 Nothing against anyone...but I'm not comfortable with this. I personally won't be using it anytime soon. What is there in your PB logs you don't feel comfortable with me seeing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny|sF Posted June 22, 2004 Share Posted June 22, 2004 all the passwords you set on your server do not appear in the logs which are streamed to the rep server. remember that you are only streaming pb logs and not osp and other gamelogs. streaming your pb logs to pbbans repository server WILL NOT cause any lag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
{DioCheeZ}RevBubba Posted June 22, 2004 Share Posted June 22, 2004 As a new member here, and a willing participant in the repository system here at pbbans.com, I felt I could offer a few words on this. I am a skeptic by nature (one of the reasons I joined up here). I tend NOT to trust new people so quickly. However, I perused the contents of the pb logs and decided that EVERY entry in the pb logs were DIRECTLY related to player connection info and pb cheats/violations - just like the info I already manually post here when we catch a cheater... So by participating in this repository system, I am relatively convinced that I am giving these guys logs which contain the same info I am already posting to them; where's the security or privacy risk in that, I asked myself? Not succeeding in finding an answer, I signed up to the repository system about a week ago, and have had no second thoughts since. Just thought I'd share this with you skeptics out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodeoBob Posted June 22, 2004 Author Share Posted June 22, 2004 Remember folks here are a few pointers: 1. SirRob's mouse finger is tired of the massive amounts of cutting and pasting required to post the cheats that you add to the forums. 2. By using the repository, your server will still have your own logs...nothing changes there. The logs that are stored on the repository server will become part of the automated system here at PBBans. Instead of you having to browse your sv_cheat.log, sv_viol.log, or PB server log for the cheaters and then posting them on the forum.....only to have Rob add them......c'mon. The PBBans system will take your streamed logs (which btw are only mirrored from your logs) and parse them. The information will be used in the MBI and the MPI. 3. What information will used? The connection info will be used in the MPI. The MPI will be modified depending upon what user level permissions you have. If you are a normal visitor....you will only see the last 8 of the guid....no ips....and most importantly it will be linked to the cheat violation if any. If you are a server admin, you will be able to see more as the system will be secure and not accessible to the general public. The cheat violations recorded in your server.....any and all....will be automatically added to the MBI. What does this mean? Once the system goes on-line....the testing phase of the repository is over and any cheat violations from that point on will be added automatically. (Key thing to remember here......if you are a server admin....don't "test" cheats on a public server with PB turned on ;) ) 4. I can't stress it enough....no one.....other than the top 4 admin that I listed will ever have access to those logs. MA-Chick.....I hope that any problems you may have with the repository can be openly discussed so that the staff here and the other admin can get a better understanding. I would honestly like you to try it out. 5. Would it make you folks feel any better if I posted some screenshots of the Repository....and even show you what the logs look like? We are all server admin here and I have no problem will posting one of my logs here. Thoughts.....questions......... Oh yeah one more thing, think about how much time it will save you (no more cutting and pasting).....and SirRob can take the splint off of his wrist :) Using the repository only helps the server admin....especially in a dispute....no more way to fake a server log entry (or remove any). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MA-Chick{EFK} Posted June 22, 2004 Share Posted June 22, 2004 Nothing against anyone...but I'm not comfortable with this. I personally won't be using it anytime soon. What is there in your PB logs you don't feel comfortable with me seeing? :roll: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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