Jaythegreat1 Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 Such a shame, if this was like WAW.. i might've considered it. I actually enjoyed WAW a bit. Just couldn't get the clan involved with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fruity-Tootie Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 It's rather annoying to see the main argument for using VAC is that it's about as good as PunkBuster (comparable) and they all believe that because admins can kick/ban they won't see hackers. I bet they're not going to be running servers on it, or have any experience how difficult it is to fairly admin a server against cheaters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gutshot Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 It's rather annoying to see the main argument for using VAC is that it's about as good as PunkBuster (comparable) and they all believe that because admins can kick/ban they won't see hackers. I bet they're not going to be running servers on it, or have any experience how difficult it is to fairly admin a server against cheaters. I used to run a Half Life 2 Deathmatch server. I had it streaming to Steambans even. VAC stopped absolutely NOTHING. I used to review the chat logs and such, and hackers would actually come on and test their hacks! They would not get kicked, banned or even scolded for it! It is truly worthless as an anticheat. I am a Punkbuster supporter all the way. Some of you may remember a server utility called Foresight from the MoH Allied Assault days. VAC might be less effective than that thing even. With games like COD that run VAC, we are going backwards in stopping cheaters from ruining our game, when we should be advancing. NO SALE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piggy Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 I used to run a Half Life 2 Deathmatch server. I had it streaming to Steambans even. VAC stopped absolutely NOTHING. I used to review the chat logs and such, and hackers would actually come on and test their hacks! They would not get kicked, banned or even scolded for it! It is truly worthless as an anticheat. I am a Punkbuster supporter all the way. Some of you may remember a server utility called Foresight from the MoH Allied Assault days. VAC might be less effective than that thing even. With games like COD that run VAC, we are going backwards in stopping cheaters from ruining our game, when we should be advancing. NO SALE. Bro they got banned 2 weeks later its cool lolololololol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fozzer Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 Bro they got banned 2 weeks later its cool lolololololol. or was that 2 years later :scratchchin: ................. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piggy Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 or was that 2 years later :scratchchin: ................. :D Only god knows with VAC xD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gutshot Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 Bro they got banned 2 weeks later its cool lolololololol. Lol, yeah, if even then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buttscratcher Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 Intresting interview about cod bo. maydax and pbbans get a little love about half way through. http://bashandslash.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1074&Itemid=69 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piggy Posted September 8, 2010 Share Posted September 8, 2010 Very little, but they're still mentioned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Everson Posted September 8, 2010 Share Posted September 8, 2010 Time code for those of us that are lazy? I mean busy... (Really want to listen to the entire thing but haven't got time today). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buttscratcher Posted September 8, 2010 Share Posted September 8, 2010 Time code for those of us that are lazy? Start it @ 58:00 - 62:00 It goes on about cheats and VAC past there. When your not as "busy", do listen to it. Its quite informative for the PC gamer. Times are a changing, and these guys lay it out in ways thats ez to follow. 65:00 - 68:30 :huh: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSMagnet Posted September 8, 2010 Share Posted September 8, 2010 really? there are two employees for Even Balance/Punkbuster? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duality Posted September 8, 2010 Share Posted September 8, 2010 There are a couple more than that :P But yes, EvenBalance is a small business. The actual numbers though, I do not know about. That was an interesting podcast - and I both agreed and disagreed with some of the points. However, I will be waiting for the post-launch opinions to come out before I put any money at all down for this game or MoH for that matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSMagnet Posted September 8, 2010 Share Posted September 8, 2010 MoH will have to be a totally different game than what the beta was. i seriously doubt it will be worth getting gotta wait till the actual drop to see what is what Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
=GoMg=THE__DRIFTER Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 Doesn't look all that good, don't know if it will be supported here either. Time will tell but holding on to my cash in the meantime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Man Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 PB isn't enough to keep me away from this game. I seriously doubt they are going to keep Gameservers as the only host but we will see how long that lasts... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gutshot Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 I seriously doubt they are going to keep Gameservers as the only host but we will see how long that lasts... Forever. Remember with MW2, everybody saying "we'll see how long they don't have dedicated servers, it will never last". It lasted. They can keep their DX9 ancient game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Man Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 yeah well africa and the middle east are bitching at the fact that gs has no hosting anywhere close... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gutshot Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 yeah well africa and the middle east are bitching at the fact that gs has no hosting anywhere close... I've been wrong before. Could be. What do I know anyway? I have no reputation here, lol. A "0" 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kolor Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 I've been wrong before. Could be. What do I know anyway? I have no reputation here, lol. A "0" Fixed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gutshot Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 Fixed Lol, thanks bud! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piggy Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 yeah well africa and the middle east are bitching at the fact that gs has no hosting anywhere close... Their numbers are very little compared to other parts of the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Live Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 +1 for the begger but seriously for boycotting another lame game :D 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSMagnet Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 Their numbers are very little compared to other parts of the world. correct this may get them a datacenter, though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duality Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 I am not going as far to say I am boycotting - if the reviews come out and the general opinion is that it isn't a bad game, I may get it. Call me naive, but I'm hoping that the MP of MOH has gotten a serious overhaul - at least then I have an alternative to Black Ops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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